Attila Lendvai attila.lendvai@gmail.com writes:

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(require 'slime) (slime-setup)

in my init file, and inferior-lisp-program set to the binary, M-x slime doesn't quite work right.  The *inferior-lisp* buffer starts up, swank says it's starting (I see the compilation) but the repl buffer never appears.

I do eventually get the "Connected." message, but I never see the repl buffer.

What am I missing?

you, imo don't miss much.

the slime defaults, on the other hand, are missing a whole lot of great features which are this way hidden from the newcomers, for the minor convenience of one of the maintainers (afaik) who prefers not to have those features enabled by default...

the problem here is the huge difference between the effort it takes to configure slime by an experienced user and by a newcomer. there's a mail with this question every few weeks (and consider the time wasted by newcomers who resolve it using google, and the number of newcomers who don't even miss the repl, because they don't even know about it...)

this mail is a political argument for changing slime defaults (enable at least the inspector, repl, fuzzy completion, presentations), because i believe that such a change would make slime more useful. my intention is to call for people's reason to support such a change, instead of dealing with each mail separately on this topic.

I'm all for loading slime-fancy by default.