Hi Henrik,

Thanks for the message! It motivates me more to see that somebody else has some interest in the project.

I should warn you that a lot of the project's components are experimental or in early stages of development. I'll give you a rundown of each folder in the project directory everyone's sake:

AMAZON-ECS: a library for interfacing with Amazon's ECS service. it works well for fetching details about books, CDs, etc and I use it for a running web site. I anticipate adding more functionality as I need it in 6 months or so.

CL-SAILS: this is a port of an older, ruby-based version of sails. Sails are GUI components for web pages. They are defined by some HTML with additional markup to indicate, for one, that certain DOM nodes are named fields of the sail. I am using this in a current project so it will be getting some attention (including examples) in the next few weeks.

JS-ON-CL: an experimental project built on the JWACS parser for dealing with Javascript in Lisp. Right now there is a Javascript to Parenscript converter in js-to-parenscript.lisp with an example. I do not imagine doing much work in here in the future.

LLAMAS: a Semantic Web development framework. There are a few ideas behind Lambdas on Llamas that make it different from other web frameworks. Developers should think of a Lambdas on Llamas project as a web service rather than a web site. A Lambdas on Llamas server provides resources and services for its intended clients rather than HTML pages for its human users. Making a local web site based on these services is straightforward, and uncoupling presentation and application logic to such an extent often makes the process easier.

In terms of Lisp, a Lambdas on Llamas server consists of responders to URI requests. Each responder will first generate a "semantic" (i.e. meaningful) reply, which is usually a CLOS object when a request is received. Based on supplied parameters, it will then decide the output format of the response and render some appropriate textual/binary sequence. For example, a Parenscript responder will have the ability to request a file as either Parenscript or Javascript, but the original abstract response (the Parenscript file) is the same in both cases.

I hope to make Semantic Web standards more integral to Lambdas on Llamas. Any response should probably have some RDF/OWL representation so interested parties can work with the response in a machine-readable, standard encoding. I would like to see Wilbur become active again (prod the developer!) or perhaps watch another RDF library crop up.

Lambdas on Llamas awaits some design decisions though I currently use it on live sites. In a few months it will receive more attention, though real progress awaits a quality library for working with RDF.

PAREN-PSOS: the Parenscript Object System is currently in good shape and set to receive some attention in a few months. Legitimate first-class slot definitions are next on the list, and then comes formalizing the protocol.

RED-BROWSER: pretty much empty. this was supposed to be a simple agent for web crawling.

RED-UTIL-CL: utilities.

RJSON: Red's Javascript Object Notation. This works in only a limited way right now, and the code is pretty ugly. I plan to rewrite it some afternoon in the next few months.

ROWL: nothing to see here.. future experiments with RDF and OWL in a Lisp environment.

SAILS: old, Ruby implementation of CL-SAILS

SUAVESCRIPT: a fork and extension of Parenscript with a more sophisticated compilation/translation process. I believe it is in disrepair right now because of reckless hacking. The main problem is I have not fleshed out the design. If you are interested in the project, post to the list to get me going again and participate in planning. I would like to see it take shape soon so that people can distribute Parenscript packages intelligently.

S-XML: a local branch of the S-XML library. The main changes are for CL-SAILS so more information is passed about the XML structure of input streams (whitespace, element details, ...).

XML-MOP: a metaobject system for defining XML formats (right now only decoding); used in AMAZON-ECS. Will probably receive incremental changes in the future, though there is a lot of room for improvement.

I hope this helps you become more acquainted with Suave. More information can be found on the iodb.org wiki: http://iodb.org/wiki/index.php/Suave_Project

Your changes have also been pushed. I will let you know when Suavescript is in working order again so you can play around with it.

Thanks and enjoy, Red

Henrik Hjelte wrote:

Hello, I was checking out suave a little. It would probably take a long time to get to know everything, so I can't make any intelligent comments yet. It seems related to birds, owls and suave :-). However, I have attached two small patches I needed to get things to load for a brief look. The example in js-to-parenscript was really cool!

Sadly I couldn't try suavescript because there is some chunk of code missing from the parser.lisp file. Check around line 241: (defun resolve-macro (name comp-env)

I think this is really interesting stuff!

Thanks, Henrik Hjelte

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New patches:

[small typo Henrik Hjelte henrik@evahjelte.com**20070429093646] { hunk ./js-on-cl/js-to-parenscript.lisp 201

• (js-to-paren *example script*))

• (js-to-paren *example-script*))

}

[asdf dependency on cl-json instead of json Henrik Hjelte henrik@evahjelte.com**20070429093913 Because asd file was renamed in cl-json project ] { hunk ./paren-psos/paren-psos.asd 20

• :depends-on ("parenscript" "closer-mop" "json"))

• :depends-on ("parenscript" "closer-mop" "cl-json"))

}

Context:

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