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[toronto-lisp] Meeting Apr 5
by Vish Singh 10 Apr '11

10 Apr '11

Hello, Please join us tomorrow for the April meeting of the Toronto Lisp Users Group! Tuesday April 5 2011 - 6pm - LinuxCaffe (for directions see www.lisptoronto.org) See you there, Vish

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[toronto-lisp] I'm moving away.. transfer of responsibilities
by Vish Singh 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Hello, I'm moving to California to start a new job soon. I'll be at the video games company I talked about in a post to this mailing list, way back in April 2009 (two years ago!): http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/toronto-lisp/2009-April/000238.html I'm really looking forward to working at this company as it's the first time I'll be able to work with Lisp professionally. I'll be sure to keep you guys posted on any interesting Lisp stuff that the company makes public; e.g. through Game Developers Conference presentations or whitepapers. Here's one such presentation (40MB download): http://www.gameenginebook.com/gdc09-statescripting-uncharted2.pdf Unfortunately this means tomorrow's meeting will be the last I'll be able to attend for a long time. Thanks for all the great discussions over the years. I've had a great time and learned a lot of cool Lisp stuff. I'm sad to be leaving, and I'll try to keep in touch as best I can. It'd be cool if one or more people would be interested in taking over various functions for the group. 1. taking meeting minutes It's optional, but it can be very helpful for people who miss a meeting or are living away and cannot attend meetings at all. Just write it up and mail it to the list after the meeting.. anyone can do this. 2. taking care of lisptoronto.org Contact me if you're interested and I'll give you access to the site and tell you how I usually update it. It's on Google Sites, and the domain name is owned by Telman Yusupov. I always meant to get this hosted on some kind of Lisp webserver, but never got around to setting it up. It would be a fun project. 3. taking care of github.com/vishsingh/lisp-toronto repo Of course, anyone can just fork this repo and decide to be the new maintainer. Just update the link on lisptoronto.org to point to the new forked repo. This repo is useful to hold source code and other files related to meetings. See you tomorrow! All the best, Vish

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[toronto-lisp] Toronto Free Software Mailing List and IRC
by Rudolf Olah 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Hey, just in case anyone's interested... The Toronto Free Software group is using the LibrePlanet Ontario mailing list and IRC. The mailing list can be found here: http://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-ca-on The IRC channel is #lp-ca-on on irc.freenode.net More information is available on the wiki: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario -- Rudolf Olah <omouse(a)gmail.com>

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[toronto-lisp] Meeting Mar 1
by Vish Singh 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Please join us tomorrow for the third Toronto Lisp meeting of 2011. Tuesday March 1 2011 - 6pm - Linuxcaffe (for directions see www.lisptoronto.org) see you there, Vish

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Re: [toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2
by Dave Cooper 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Dear All, I just changed my mailing list settings as I was on Digest setting and didn't see this until today (no reason to be on Digest for toronto-lisp, the volume isn't so huge!) Anyway I am still open to present/discuss on the issues Paul lists below in future meetings, either in person or through Skype. My Best, -dave On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net> wrote: ... > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:56:16 -0500 > From: Paul Tarvydas <tarvydas(a)visualframeworksinc.com> > Subject: Re: [toronto-lisp] Meeting Mar 1 ... > > Unfortunately, I'm well under the weather and won't be attending tonight. > > Dave Cooper is interested in skyping in again. If someone could bring a laptop with a full size screen, Dave could do a skype screen-share and demo his GDL product - which is a very interesting bundled product consisting of Allegro plus a bunch of in-house and 3rd party libraries that creates custom CAD-like engineering environments for various industries (for example, the automotive industry). > > Dave's email is: david.cooper(a)genworks.com . Let him know if this can be accommodated. > > I'm not sure that I heard this factoid mentioned - Dave is a board member of the ALU. We should be picking his brains on all issues lisp. > > He also suggests an interesting list of potential topics: > > 1. Give a GDL presentation and demo > > 2. Talk about software licensing: commercial, open-source, dual. > > 3. ILC, ECLM, other larger Lisp meetings (who would attend and why) > > 4. Common Lisp Foundation, ALU, and funding issues. > > 5. Library initiatives (Quicklisp, LibCL, Lispbox, and similar). > > > Please post a summary of the meeting for those of us too sick to show up :-). > > pt >

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[toronto-lisp] Gabor Melis (Google AI contest winner) webinar
by Leo Zovic 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

You've probably all seen this by now, but a fellow lispit poster has put up a download of the full talk in WMV format (thread here<http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/f6t7m/excerpt_video_google_ai_challen…>, download here <http://www.mediafire.com/?truph5zaudjdvp5>). Enjoy. -Leo

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[toronto-lisp] Meeting Feb. 1
by Paul Tarvydas 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

Dave Cooper, from Michigan, will be joining us again for the TOLUG meeting Tues. Feb. 1. He's going to skype in. I'm bringing my laughtop (windows, with video skype). If someone were to bring a backup, that would be good, too. pt

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[toronto-lisp] OCaml
by D. J. Penton 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

I have to get this off my chest. I am now seriously obliged to learn OCaml for use in a course in my grad program. In 2010 I just tinkered with the language. But the honeymoon is over. So far I hate OCaml more than words can say. Maybe it's the book I'm using to learn it. I ordered a different book from Amazon. I hope the new book helps. If not I shall suffer grievously throughout the term. I don't half mind Haskell, but Holy Snapping Assholes, Batman - not OCaml, pleeeeease. Pray for me. - Dave -

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Re: [toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 37, Issue 7
by patrick＠patrickjones.ca 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

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[toronto-lisp] Conversation with Gábor Melis
by Leo Zovic 11 Jan '11

11 Jan '11

http://www.franz.com/services/conferences_seminars/webinar_1-20-11.lhtml That's a link to franz' webinar signup page (no fee, AFAIK) for the webinar with Gábor Melis (the guy who won Google's AI competition using a bot implemented in Common Lisp). Could be interesting. -Leo

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[toronto-lisp] Meeting tomorrow, 6pm at Linuxcaffe
by Vish Singh 06 Jan '11

06 Jan '11

Please join us tomorrow for the first Toronto Lisp meeting of 2011. Brave the (rather slight) cold and meet your fellow Lispers. Tuesday January 4, 2011 -- 6pm -- Linuxcaffe (directions at lisptoronto.org) On the agenda: - Scheme is on iPad! http://web.mac.com/Jay_reynolds_freeman/My/Pixie_Scheme_III.html - Clojure discussion as suggested previously - plans for Lisp in 2011 - any presentations/demos would be welcome - ... see you there.

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[toronto-lisp] meeting tonight
by Paul Tarvydas 04 Jan '11

04 Jan '11

I'll be attending. A new member will be there, too. Last month a few people mentioned that they'd like some discussion about Clojure tonight. Is that still the plan? pt

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Re: [toronto-lisp] plans for Lisp in 2011
by Leo Zovic 03 Jan '11

03 Jan '11

Personally, I'm starting the year off by going through the codebase for Elite for Emacs <http://members.fortunecity.com/salkosuo/elite-for-emacs/> and trying to get a working game out of it. I'll let you know how it goes (and if I end up fully re-writing the thing, I'll toss it up on github with an open source license). -Leo

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Re: [toronto-lisp] plans for Lisp in 2011
by Paul Iannazzo 02 Jan '11

02 Jan '11

i haven't used a mailing list before, so i don't know if i'm replying to the message correctly. anyway, from what i've read/seen erlang is really good for distribution problems, and someone has already developed a p2p layered database over it (actually more than one person). p2p has some funny things about it in terms of reliability, even when you control all the nodes. it may be a good idea to at least look at the solutions that researches have made in regards to p2p datastores, i just happened to stumble upon them when learning about erlang. ~~ Paul Joseph Iannazzo.

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[toronto-lisp] plans for Lisp in 2011
by Vish Singh 02 Jan '11

02 Jan '11

Happy new year. I've started thinking about Lisp projects I could work on this year, since I feel like I didn't do enough real Lisp hacking in 2010. I'd like to write a distributed backup system in Clojure. It's a simple idea: create a distributed filesystem using the free hard drive space in people's PCs. If you backup 100GB of data, it will be replicated in two other places within this "cloud", but you must contribute 200GB of your free hard drive space to the cloud in return. Hence you get geographic redundancy for your backups while providing space for other people's backups. I believe that this system could be created entirely as a P2P app, without needing any centralized component. The slightly tricky part is to ensure fairness; i.e. that people give roughly as much as they receive. I'd like to write this in Clojure as I like the language, and being on the JVM makes it easy for the client app to run on Windows, Mac, and Linux. This project "scratches my own itch", as I've always disliked setting up and maintaining backups in multiple locations for my own data. People have thought of similar ideas before, for example: http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/18-842-nwalia/ ... but I don't see that any such service has become popular. What would folks like to use Lisp for in 2011?

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[toronto-lisp] Potential new user/dev group for free/open source software
by Rudolf Olah 26 Dec '10

26 Dec '10

I don't know how people feel about free/open source software here, but I've been kinda wanting to start a new group that promotes and encourages the use of free/open source software in Toronto and the GTA and in the rest of Ontario. In terms of Lisp, I guess this would mean discussing the perils and pitfalls of using certain open source licenses for Lisp code or Lisp implementations, and maybe discussing which free software implementations or open source modules are the best to use, and maybe how it impacts business. I think that's one of the larger issues; building a business on free software (I know a few Toronto Lisp people were involved in startups and larger enterprises). So what would you guys think about this? Does anyone here like talking about free/open source software? :P -- Rudolf Olah <omouse(a)gmail.com>

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[toronto-lisp] The weekly REPL
by Brian Connoy 13 Dec '10

13 Dec '10

"The Weekly REPL is a podcast covering news, events and commentary about the lisp family of programming languages - including Common Lisp<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Common_Lisp>, Clojure<http://clojure.org>, Scheme<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Scheme_%28programming_langua…>, Emacs Lisp<http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/elisp.html>, and more." http://lisp.geek.nz/weekly-repl/

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[toronto-lisp] Fwd: [tpm] [Fwd: The Upcoming Dynamic Language Smack Down]
by Abram Hindle 10 Dec '10

10 Dec '10

Is anyone defending lisp at this GTALUG meeting? abram -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [tpm] [Fwd: The Upcoming Dynamic Language Smack Down] Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 13:33:32 -0500 From: arocker(a)Vex.Net To: Toronto PerlMongers <tpm(a)to.pm.org> I'm going to be representing Perl at a GTALUG meeting (unless someone else wants the job :-)* ). If anyone has any suggestions they would like to make about the points in the notice, please let me know. The meeting notice follows: We are about six days away from the **Dynamic Language Smack Down** at the upcoming GTALUG meeting (14th December, 2010 at 7:30pm). We are going to start things off with a quick five minute introduction to your programming language. We would like you to describe your languages programming syntax by showing us a pre-made demo of code. This is my example <https://gist.github.com/720559>. Then we will have the following panel questions: * How does your language access functionality from C libraries? * How does your language deal with modularization of common functionality? * How does your language handle scalability issues? * Applications that require many concurrent threads of execution? * How does the language interact with threading? * Does it offer other models for managing concurrent processing? * Applications that require loading large volumes of code? * Parsing and compiling can be expensive; is there a precompiled form? * Applications that process huge volumes of data * If your dynamic programming language was not available, which of the other dynamic programming language would you recommend? * What is your languages biggest bug, problem, or limitation you are facing today? * How are you going to solve it? * What's the "sweet spot" for your language? * Where can I find more information about your language? * What kind of community is using and support your language? * What **local** community is using and supporting your language? * What language features are notable and interesting? * What notable applications are using the language? The address of our meeting is: Room GB248, Galbraith Building, University of Toronto 35 St George St Toronto, Ontario M5S 3G8 University of Toronto _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm(a)pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm

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[toronto-lisp] Meeting tomorrow, 6pm, Linuxcaffe
by Vish Singh 10 Dec '10

10 Dec '10

The December meeting of the Toronto Lisp Users group is here! Brave the cold and meet your fellow Lispers. Tuesday December 7, 2010 -- 6pm -- Linuxcaffe (for directions see http://www.lisptoronto.org/)

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Re: [toronto-lisp] Meeting tomorrow
by Leo Zovic 07 Dec '10

07 Dec '10

I'll be there. -Leo > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 10:40:20 -0500 > From: Paul Tarvydas <tarvydas(a)visualframeworksinc.com> > Subject: Re: [toronto-lisp] Meeting tomorrow, 6pm, Linuxcaffe > To: toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > Message-ID: <201012071040.20825.tarvydas(a)visualframeworksinc.com> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > The December meeting of the Toronto Lisp Users group is here! > > Brave the cold and meet your fellow Lispers. > > I expect to be there tonight. I might have to step out in the middle of > things, to take a call, though. > > pt > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-lisp mailing list > toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp > > > End of toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 36, Issue 2 > ******************************************* >

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[toronto-lisp] Pattern Matching in CL
by David Penton 07 Dec '10

07 Dec '10

Do any of you have experience with pattern-matching packages in CL? By this I do not mean only regular expression stuff such as in CL-PPCRE, but rather pattern-matching for function definition as in Haskell, OCaml, the Racket match function, etc. (Although perhaps CL-PPCRE does this also;, but I am only familiar with the string-handling stuff in CL-PPCRE.) My question is: If I want to mimic what is possible in Haskell, ML and kin, etc. what is the best CL stuff for pattern matching? I have looked at CL-MATCH but find the documentation a bit hard to penetrate. I am in a bit of a hurry to get something done that pattern matching would really help, so any recommendations are welcome. Best, - Dave -

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Re: [toronto-lisp] Lisp in the AI challenge
by Leo Zovic 02 Dec '10

02 Dec '10

The challenge concluded yesterday, and yeah, Gabor Melis won handily; trouncing the next AI by exactly 200 points. That's significant when you take into account that the typical difference between two consecutive top 100 AIs is between 5 and 20 points. I played around with the starter package too, but didn't have enough time to build a proper contender -Leo Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:04:35 -0500 > From: Vish Singh <vishvajitsingh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [toronto-lisp] Lisp in the Google AI challenge > To: toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinm6OhqcqhRZAEtBJ5YmLgu1kz2Yg_=eAgQqz5W(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > A formidable Lisp bot, written by a Hungarian programmer, is leading > the rankings by a respectable margin in the latest Google AI > challenge: > http://ai-contest.com/rankings.php > > Let's cheer him on, and hope he stays in 1st place :) > > I found out about this challenge too late and, although I played > around with the Lisp Starter Pack last week, didn't have time to write > a decent bot. I believe there will be another challenge next year. > > Vish >

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[toronto-lisp] Lisp in the Google AI challenge
by Vish Singh 30 Nov '10

30 Nov '10

A formidable Lisp bot, written by a Hungarian programmer, is leading the rankings by a respectable margin in the latest Google AI challenge: http://ai-contest.com/rankings.php Let's cheer him on, and hope he stays in 1st place :) I found out about this challenge too late and, although I played around with the Lisp Starter Pack last week, didn't have time to write a decent bot. I believe there will be another challenge next year. Vish

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[toronto-lisp] Fwd: [TLUG-ANNOUNCE]: GTALUG Meeting Tuesday, 14th December, 2010 @ 7:30pm
by Christopher Browne 24 Nov '10

24 Nov '10

I forwarded notice of this over back in June; if someone would be interested in championing Lisp in a hopefully-lively discussion, you'd surely be made welcome. Note that there are some planned common questions that hopefully show the flavour of the intent: <http://gtalug.org/wiki/Meetings:2010-12/Notes> I believe that virtually all of those questions are ones I'm responsible for... Note that David Collier Brown is an "old Multician," (there now is no other kind! :-)) so it certainly should be a thoughtful moderation that gets expressed. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Myles Braithwaite <me(a)mylesbraithwaite.com> Date: Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:04 AM Subject: [TLUG-ANNOUNCE]: GTALUG Meeting Tuesday, 14th December, 2010 @ 7:30pm To: TLUG Announce <tlug-announce(a)ss.org> Topic: Dynamic Languages Smack Down with David Collier-Brown. Panel * Myles Braithwaite -- Python * Still Looking -- Perl * Scott Elcomb -- JavaScript * Fabio FZero -- Ruby * Yanni Chiu -- Smalltalk * Still Looking -- Lisp Location Room GB248, Galbraith Building, University of Toronto 35 St George St Toronto, Ontario M5S 3G8 University of Toronto <http://osm.org/go/ZX6ByChVi-> or <http://goo.gl/maps/S1sL> Schedule 6:00 pm - There is a get together of GTALUGers at Pho 88 <http://pho88.ca/> restaurant 270 Spadina Ave (South of Dundas) for food and socializing. 7:30 pm - Meeting and presentation. 9:00 pm - After each meeting (at 9:00 pm) a group of GTALUGers move to the GSU Pub for beer and more socializing. Retrieved from <http://gtalug.org/wiki/Meetings:2010-12> -- http://linuxfinances.info/info/linuxdistributions.html

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[toronto-lisp] making good progress
by Matijaca, Aleksandar 18 Nov '10

18 Nov '10

Sorry to bombard you folks with this, but I am pissed off and happy all at the same time. It seems that install.lisp was MISSING some brackets ... So, I got this far, and now, have what is hopefully the last issue: CL-USER 5 > (load "c:/aa/asdf-install/asdf-install/load-asdf-install.lisp") ; Loading text file c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\load-asdf-install.lisp ;;; ASDF-INSTALL: Loading ASDF-INSTALL package from directory ;;; "c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\" ; Loading text file c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\defpackage.lisp ; Loading text file c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\port.lisp ; Loading text file c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\split-sequence.lisp ; Loading text file c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\variables.lisp ; Loading text file c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\conditions.lisp ; Loading text file c:\aa\asdf-install\asdf-install\installer.lisp #P"c:/aa/asdf-install/asdf-install/load-asdf-install.lisp" CL-USER 6 > (require 'asdf) NIL CL-USER 7 > (require 'asdf-install) NIL CL-USER 8 > (asdf-install:install "c:/libraries/cl-ppcre.tar.gz") Install where? 1) System-wide install: System in \usr\local\asdf-install\site-systems\ Files in \usr\local\asdf-install\site\ 2) Personal installation: System in H:\.asdf-install-dir\systems\ Files in H:\.asdf-install-dir\site\ 0) Abort installation. --> 2 ;;; ASDF-INSTALL: Installing c:/libraries/cl-ppcre.tar.gz in H:\.asdf-install-dir\site\, H:\.asdf-install-dir\systems\ Error: In ZEROP of (:ACTIVE) arguments should be of type NUMBER. 1 (continue) Return a value to use. 2 Supply a new argument. 3 (abort) Return to level 0. 4 Return to top loop level 0. Type :b for backtrace or :c <option number> to proceed. Type :bug-form "<subject>" for a bug report template or :? for other options. CL-USER 9 : 1 > ====================================================== It appears to have created the directories in H:\.asdf-install-dir\ but there is nothing in those directories... Thanks, Alex. _______________________________________________________________________ This email is intended only for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may be privileged and confidential. Unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you receive This e-mail in error, please advise immediately and delete the original message. This message may have been altered without your or our knowledge and the sender does not accept any liability for any errors or omissions in the message. Ce courriel est confidentiel et protégé. L'expéditeur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) désigné(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immédiatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen.

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