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[toronto-lisp] Minutes of July meeting
by Ravi Desai 07 Jul '12

07 Jul '12

Here we go. Sorry about taking so long to send it. If anyone doesn't know, its in org-mode. ------------------------- * Present Paul Jos'h Mark Leo Ravi * Discussion ** AutoLISP and its use in industrial programming *** John Walker - cofounder of Autodesk www.fourmilab.ch + Book: "The autodesk file" : Early history of Autodesk Required reading for software startups *** AutoCAD Electrical Program that automates making drawings for use in factories Nate Holt Lisp software. 250K lines of code. Only 2 programmers writing it. Said to always meet deadlines with fewer bugs than the competition. ** Clojure Why is it the most commercially used mostly-functional language? -> concurrency JVM good. Java bad. *** Datomic Immutable database by Rich Hickey Time-based queries + Helps with testing Interface language : Datalog ** Erlang Hot code-swapping isn't a feature. It just happens when you have tail-recursion and immutable state ** Programming in industry *** Bad onions One person makes a tool, and future programmers build filters upon them. Sometimes its best to just start over *** Authentication in industry + There is none + HP printers Its possible to update their firmware, turn them into zombies and attack an office with them. ** Reading material *** Fred Brooks Mythical man-month : no silver bullet : IT managers should read this *** Joel on Software http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/FiveWorlds.html * Projects ** Leo Erlang port of a 4chan-like image board Uses Erlang web-framework called Nitrogen : http://nitrogenproject.com/ Comet: protocol to keep http sessions alive

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Re: [toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 4
by Paul Iannazzo 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

really like the videos. the hash DOS is awesome. seems similar to level 7 DOS attacks, but much much better. the TOR stuff was very eye opening. ~~ Paul Joseph Iannazzo. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:00 PM, <toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net>wrote: > Send toronto-lisp mailing list submissions to > toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > toronto-lisp-owner(a)common-lisp.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of toronto-lisp digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Hello from Mark (July 3 meeting) (Me) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 20:00:04 -0400 > From: Me <goracle(a)rogers.com> > To: toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > Subject: [toronto-lisp] Hello from Mark (July 3 meeting) > Message-ID: <4FF4D904.5020407(a)rogers.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Gentlemen, > > Very interesting meeting on Tuesday July 3,2012. Thanks for opening my > eyes to new possibilities. Here are the links I spoke about last night. > Look forward to next months meeting. > > > How governments have tried to block Tor > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwMr8Xl7JMQ > > > Print me if you dare > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njVv7J2azY8 > > > 28c3: The Science of Insecurity > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEfedtQVOY > > > Effective Denial of Service attacks against web application platforms > [28C3] > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfWwWhntoRo > > > 28c3: The coming war on general computation > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg > > and for fun > > > Reverse Engineering the MOS 6502 CPU [27C3] > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5miMbqYB4E > > > Thanks > > Mark > > P.S. Paul Clojure rocks! I've installed it and have it running, very cool. > >

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Re: [toronto-lisp] Hello from Mark
by Leo Zovic 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

I can vouch that the Tor and Doctorow talks are interesting. Seriously, watch them. Still working my way through the other ones (I may have to send "Print me if you dare" to my boss; we do a lot of stuff for various clients that use HP printers). -Leo On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:00 PM, <toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net>wrote: > Send toronto-lisp mailing list submissions to > toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > toronto-lisp-owner(a)common-lisp.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of toronto-lisp digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Hello from Mark (July 3 meeting) (Me) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 20:00:04 -0400 > From: Me <goracle(a)rogers.com> > To: toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > Subject: [toronto-lisp] Hello from Mark (July 3 meeting) > Message-ID: <4FF4D904.5020407(a)rogers.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Gentlemen, > > Very interesting meeting on Tuesday July 3,2012. Thanks for opening my > eyes to new possibilities. Here are the links I spoke about last night. > Look forward to next months meeting. > > > How governments have tried to block Tor > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwMr8Xl7JMQ > > > Print me if you dare > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njVv7J2azY8 > > > 28c3: The Science of Insecurity > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEfedtQVOY > > > Effective Denial of Service attacks against web application platforms > [28C3] > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfWwWhntoRo > > > 28c3: The coming war on general computation > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg > > and for fun > > > Reverse Engineering the MOS 6502 CPU [27C3] > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5miMbqYB4E > > > Thanks > > Mark > > P.S. Paul Clojure rocks! I've installed it and have it running, very cool. > >

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[toronto-lisp] Hello from Mark (July 3 meeting)
by Me 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Gentlemen, Very interesting meeting on Tuesday July 3,2012. Thanks for opening my eyes to new possibilities. Here are the links I spoke about last night. Look forward to next months meeting. How governments have tried to block Tor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwMr8Xl7JMQ Print me if you dare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njVv7J2azY8 28c3: The Science of Insecurity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEfedtQVOY Effective Denial of Service attacks against web application platforms [28C3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfWwWhntoRo 28c3: The coming war on general computation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg and for fun Reverse Engineering the MOS 6502 CPU [27C3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5miMbqYB4E Thanks Mark P.S. Paul Clojure rocks! I've installed it and have it running, very cool.

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Re: [toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 2
by Leo Zovic 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

We've managed to convene at the afore mentioned timmy's. Come on down! On Jul 3, 2012 6:30 PM, <toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net> wrote: Send toronto-lisp mailing list submissions to toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net You can reach the person managing the list at toronto-lisp-owner(a)common-lisp.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of toronto-lisp digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 (Leo Zovic) 2. Re: toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 (Rudolf) 3. Re: toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 (Leo Zovic) 4. Re: toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 (doug(a)hcsw.org) 5. Re: toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 (Leo Zovic) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 16:29:23 -0400 From: Leo Zovic <leo.zovic(a)gmail.com> To: toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net Subject: Re: [toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 Message-ID: <CAJdDMYw1yWP_RSnZB+519eh0PE2uf5MzedhidyXYcut+_3iDGA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pssst... linuxcaffe has closed down; any preference on another place? I'll be at the timmy's outside of Christie Station in the meanwhile. On Jul 3, 2012 3:00 PM, <toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net> wrote: Send toronto-lisp mailing list submissions to toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net You can reach the person managing the list at toronto-lisp-owner(a)common-lisp.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of toronto-lisp digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Reminder: Toronto Lisp Meeting Tonight! (Jos'h Fuller) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:01 -0400 From: Jos'h Fuller <josh(a)cjmunday.com> To: toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net Subject: [toronto-lisp] Reminder: Toronto Lisp Meeting Tonight! Message-ID: <4FF2B88D.4030001(a)cjmunday.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello! If my memory serves me correctly, today is the first Tuesday of July: [The Toronto Lisp Users' Group] meets on the first Tuesday of every month, at LinuxCaffe, just south of Christie subway station. Meetings start at 6pm and will generally go to about 8pm. I hope to see you at the Linux Caffe tonight! http://www.lisptoronto.org/ Jos'h ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ toronto-lisp mailing list toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp End of toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 *******************************************

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Re: [toronto-lisp] toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1
by Leo Zovic 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Pssst... linuxcaffe has closed down; any preference on another place? I'll be at the timmy's outside of Christie Station in the meanwhile. On Jul 3, 2012 3:00 PM, <toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net> wrote: Send toronto-lisp mailing list submissions to toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to toronto-lisp-request(a)common-lisp.net You can reach the person managing the list at toronto-lisp-owner(a)common-lisp.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of toronto-lisp digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Reminder: Toronto Lisp Meeting Tonight! (Jos'h Fuller) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:17:01 -0400 From: Jos'h Fuller <josh(a)cjmunday.com> To: toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net Subject: [toronto-lisp] Reminder: Toronto Lisp Meeting Tonight! Message-ID: <4FF2B88D.4030001(a)cjmunday.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello! If my memory serves me correctly, today is the first Tuesday of July: [The Toronto Lisp Users' Group] meets on the first Tuesday of every month, at LinuxCaffe, just south of Christie subway station. Meetings start at 6pm and will generally go to about 8pm. I hope to see you at the Linux Caffe tonight! http://www.lisptoronto.org/ Jos'h ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ toronto-lisp mailing list toronto-lisp(a)common-lisp.net http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/toronto-lisp End of toronto-lisp Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1 *******************************************

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[toronto-lisp] Reminder: Toronto Lisp Meeting Tonight!
by Jos'h Fuller 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Hello! If my memory serves me correctly, today is the first Tuesday of July: [The Toronto Lisp Users' Group] meets on the first Tuesday of every month, at LinuxCaffe, just south of Christie subway station. Meetings start at 6pm and will generally go to about 8pm. I hope to see you at the Linux Caffe tonight! http://www.lisptoronto.org/ Jos'h

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[toronto-lisp] I think I've been pwned...
by Jos'h Fuller 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Hi! Those present at the most recent meeting (or who read my attempt at minutes) may recall the amusing discussion we had about parsing command line options. I think I'm done -- these guys seem to have it covered: http://challenge.docopt.org Sigh. But I was so /good/ at parsing command lines... Jos'h

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[toronto-lisp] Next Meeting July 3 and minutes
by Paul Tarvydas 13 Jun '12

13 Jun '12

http://www.lisptoronto.org/ The June minutes have been posted. pt

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[toronto-lisp] Toronto Lisp meeting tomorrow
by Paul Tarvydas 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

http://www.lisptoronto.org pt

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