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[asdf-devel] Added a new test
by Robert Goldman 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

I originally thought that ASDF might not notice if a source file was lost, as long as a fasl was left around. In fact, it /does/ notice, which is what I had hoped. I just added a test to verify this, just in case. Please try and run this when you get a chance, just to make sure it's truly portable. I'm particularly curious about whether it will work on Windows. thanks, r

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[asdf-devel] (Somewhat urgent) ASDF manual link broken
by Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

The link in Google for the ASDF manual points to http://common-lisp.net/project/asdf/manual.html This is so because I convinced the person with the highest page rank in that query to place a link to this page. However the previous link has been arbitrarily changed to become http://common-lisp.net/project/asdf/asdf.html In order to preserve the ranking I advise to set up .htaccess to redirect to the new location. Either that or simply place a soft link in the server. I would do it myself but my account in common-lisp.net (jgarcia) does not have the right permissions. Juanjo -- Instituto de Física Fundamental, CSIC c/ Serrano, 113b, Madrid 28006 (Spain) http://tream.dreamhosters.com

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[asdf-devel] ASDF2 committed to ABCL trunk
by Mark Evenson 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

We [committed ASDF 1.679 to the ABCL trunk today][1], so barring some real problems that show up in testing, ASDF2 will be the stock version in ABCL with 0.20 due at the end of this month. Thanks for all the help! [1]: http://trac.common-lisp.net/armedbear/changeset/12618 -- "A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare to it now."

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[asdf-devel] Hoist by my own petard: problem with asdf-binary-locations compatibility.
by Robert Goldman 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

One of my own systems got blown up by ASDF-OUTPUT-TRANSLATIONS recently, and the case may be an interesting one: I am working on a system that involves taking an ontology from the Protege tool, and interpreting it as CL. So we have a special component type which is "pont" (from Protege ontology). A pont file is /almost/ readable CL, but not quite. So before we can do the compile-op on the pont file, we first do a pont-to-lisp operation on it, which involves calling a perl script to generate a lisp file from the pont file. So..... We have a pont-file which ISA cl-source-file. But there is no .lisp file to begin with. Instead, we have the following chain of operations: pont-file ==== pont-to-lisp ====> lisp file ==== compile-op ====> fasl This works fine in ASDF Classic, even with asdf-binary-locations, because asdf-binary-locations ONLY rewrites the output-files of COMPILE-OP. So, the output of the pont-to-lisp file, the lisp file, gets written into the source directory where the compile-op can find it. Unfortunately, this is not what happens with ASDF-OUTPUT-LOCATIONS, because A-O-L translates /all/ output-files, not just those of compile-op. This means that our lisp file gets dropped somewhere into /var/cache/common-lisp-controller/501/.... [Is this a misconfiguration of A-O-L, btw? My colleague is compiling this code as an ordinary user. I guess I'm surprised that the default is to drop stuff into /var instead of into a userdir. Seems like this is going to create a lot of dark matter in the filesystem, since one will have to look pretty hard to clean up zombie fasls... I would have thought something in the user's homedir would be more likely as a default...] I'm afraid this suggests that we should tweak the asdf-binary-locations compatibility code yet again. I will see if I can suggest a patch. BTW, I discovered this because some ubuntu version seems to be shipping with common-lisp-controller with an ASDF 2 from git's womb untimely ripp'd... So Ubuntu people are unwittingly getting their SBCL served to them with ASDF2 rolled into it. Slightly alarming. Best, r

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[asdf-devel] 1.675 bug
by szergling 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Hi list, I'm having trouble hot-upgrading asdf. My old setup was not checked out of a repository, but does have a file modified date of 2007-06-18. I also use asdf-binary-locations version "0.3.8". To begin with, I have created the following config file (~ is at c:/home) ~/.config/common-lisp/source-registry.conf (:source-registry (:directory "e:/src/ltk-0.90/") (:tree "c:/home/code/lisp/libs/") (:exclude "_darcs") :ignore-inherited-configuration) I then load-file asdf.lisp from Slime. My clisp-2.47 (non-cygwin Windows) is previously already running with asdf, asdf-binary-locations, and many systems loaded (and other random work done). I then tried to load a system that I could previously load just fine, in this case ironclad_0.27. CL-USER> (asdf:load-system :ironclad) ; loading system definition from C:\home\code\lisp\libs\ironclad_0.27\ironclad.asd into #<PACKAGE ASDF0> ;; Loading file C:\home\code\lisp\libs\ironclad_0.27\ironclad.asd ... ; registering #<SYSTEM :IRONCLAD #x26F7286D> as IRONCLAD ; registering #<SYSTEM IRONCLAD-TESTS #x26FE5225> as IRONCLAD-TESTS ;; Loaded file C:\home\code\lisp\libs\ironclad_0.27\ironclad.asd ; No value This gave the following error. TRANSLATE-PATHNAME: replacement pieces (NIL NIL (:DIRECTORY #1="home" #2="code" #3="lisp" #4="libs" #5="ironclad_0.27") "package" "fas" :NEWEST) do not fit into #P"C:\\Documents and Settings\\chewyong\\Local Settings\\Temporary Internet Files\\common-lisp\\**\\*.*" [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR] I browsed around in the stack trace (yes clisp stack traces are ugly), and looked deeper into this particular frame: ... 17: <1/1718> #<SYSTEM-FUNCTION TRANSLATE-PATHNAME> [1712] EVAL frame for form (TRANSLATE-PATHNAME (ASDF::DIRECTORIZE-PATHNAME-HOST-DEVICE ASDF::P) ASDF::ABSOLUTE-SOURCE ASDF::DESTINATION) Locals: ASDF::ABSOLUTE-SOURCE = #P"\\**\\*.*" ASDF::ROOT = #P"\\" ASDF::DESTINATION = #P"C:\\Documents and Settings\\chewyong\\Local Settings\\Temporary Internet.. ASDF::SOURCE = T #:LIST-13280 = ((T ..)) ASDF::P = #P"\\home\\code\\lisp\\libs\\ironclad_0.27\\package.fas" #:PATTERN-13281 = (T ..) #:TYPECASE-KEY-13279 = #P"C:\\home\\code\\lisp\\libs\\ironclad_0.27\\package.fas" #:TYPECASE-KEY-13278 = #P"C:\\home\\code\\lisp\\libs\\ironclad_0.27\\package.fas" ASDF::PATH = #P"C:\\home\\code\\lisp\\libs\\ironclad_0.27\\package.fas" ... In particular, I'm guessing that this is related to truenamize (has it taken the wrong branch?) with respect to (line 677 on my version of asdf.lisp) (ignore-errors (return (truename p))) Am I close enough? See the following: CL-USER> (truename (merge-pathnames #P"\\home\\code\\lisp\\libs\\ironclad_0.27\\package.fas")) ==> TRUENAME: File #1=#P"C:\\home\\code\\lisp\\libs\\ironclad_0.27\\package.fas" does not exist [Condition of type SYSTEM::SIMPLE-FILE-ERROR] My package.fas, due to asdf-binary-locations, has been stored previously in ~/code/lisp/libs/ironclad_0.27/clisp-2.47-win32-i386/package.fas I hope this is useful for fixing asdf + a-b-l hot upgrade. I can restart a new Lisp and give full backtraces or other further info, should that be necessary. Cheers.

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[asdf-devel] TRAVERSE being very slow
by Faré 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

On a large flat system (automatically generated by XCVB from QRes), TRAVERSE takes a whole lot of time. More like O(n^2) or O(n^3) than either O(n) or O(n log n). I suspect suboptimal algorithms are used somewhere, either in component lookup or in topological sorting. Sigh. The amount of memory consed suggests it's not just lookup time, but hugely inefficient intermediate data structures. (time (length (asdf::traverse (make-instance 'asdf:load-op) (asdf:find-system :qres-ccl-xne))) ==> took 140,642,274 microseconds (140.642270 seconds) to run with 8 available CPU cores. During that period, 140,484,780 microseconds (140.484790 seconds) were spent in user mode 148,010 microseconds (0.148010 seconds) were spent in system mode 996,129 microseconds (0.996129 seconds) was spent in GC. 8,182,948,112 bytes of memory allocated. 2748 [ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Economic illiteracy often leads one to take for wealth creation or cost reduction what is only a forced displacement of activity, with no primary gain, and a lot of secondary costs and negative side-effects. — Faré

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[asdf-devel] Results of an automated study of ASDF practices
by Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

... with my usual trolling http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/4fc15114d6865348 FYI -- Instituto de Física Fundamental, CSIC c/ Serrano, 113b, Madrid 28006 (Spain) http://tream.dreamhosters.com

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[asdf-devel] How can I muffle ASDF2 chatter in one shot?
by Jean-Claude Beaudoin 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Hello all, In ASDF2 (I am still using 1.661) is it possible turn off all "informational" output in one single operation? Looking at the source I see that there is a bunch of :verbose arguments to most (all?) of ASDF main entry points, but each of these have hard coded default values of T. This way one has to pass a ":verbose NIL" pair on each call to ASDF in order to get silence. Couldn't we have a *asdf-verbose* global that would give the default value of those :verbose arguments? Then a single (setq *asdf-verbose* nil) would allow the whole thing to go in "run silent, run deep" mode. Thanks Jean-Claude Beaudoin

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[asdf-devel] ASDF 1.671: feature complete - please test!
by Faré 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Dear all, with ASDF 1.671, I've updated the website and hopefully fixed all the bugs due for ASDF release 2. Could you be so kind as to severely test it on your platform of choice and report bugs? I would also invite implementers and system distributers to test-drive it. If you have a beta branch, I would even invite you to include the new ASDF in your beta branch, assuming it passes your preliminary tests. [ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Reevaluate your ends periodically — if some of them or in contradiction with reality or with each other, abandon or amend them without mercy — and those you keep, pursue without any apology.

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[asdf-devel] new asdf does not like matlisp.asd
by m_mommer＠yahoo.com 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

Hi, what follows is, as far as I am concerned, an observation, and not a bug report. Maybe it is an interesting issue to keep in mind. So I upgraded to the new asdf, and observed the following. When I load matlisp with the .asd attached, I get an error that goes like this /usr/bin/ld: cannot open output file /home/mommer/.cache/common-lisp/sbcl-1.0.37-linux-x86-64/home/mommer/dev/matlisp/lib/libmatlisp.so: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status The reason for the ld error is that that ^.*/lib/.* does not exist, and again the reason seems to be this: (slightly edited) -------------- [...] (defsystem :matlisp :components ((:unix-dso "alien code" :pathname "" :dso-name "lib/libmatlisp" ;; barf :components ((:alien-module "BLAS" :pathname "LAPACK/BLAS/SRC/" [...] ---------------- I presume one can defend the new asdf here, and I can fix it for me by removing the "lib/" as it does not matter one iota. But I also would expect this to come up again. Regards, Mario.

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