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Re: [asdf-devel] ASDF 3.0.2.1 released
by Faré 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Dear Robert, here are some code review comments on ASDF 3.0.2.1. * Putting :asdf/find-system after :asdf in the recycle looks like it's defeating the purpose; you might as well remove it. * Maybe refactor duplicate-names so it doesn't inherit from system-definition-error ? Or have a function of the same name be called that is defined later to throw the error? * Since we don't work on antique cmucl, maybe we could check whether the :report print-object hack is still needed? * I kind of wanted to prevent the multiplication of .asd files and the eating away of the namespace by using test-asdf/foo systems for new systems; but it's your baby, so your call. Also, an error might not be compatible with putting it in test-asdf.asd. On the other hand, that's a case where define-test-system and/or eval can be used so you don't need a .asd file at all. * the nodes in the grammar could be renamed to be less confusing and not require a comment. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org The politicians have a most touching faith in technology — that it can make up for any dumb thing the politicians decide to do. — John McCarthy

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[asdf-devel] Another grammar question
by Robert Goldman 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

The :REQUIRE directive seems undocumented. Under what circumstances is it acceptable? thanks, r -- Robert P. Goldman Staff Scientist Smart Information Flow Technologies (d/b/a SIFT, LLC) 211 N. First St., Suite 300 Minneapolis, MN 55401 Voice: (612) 326-3934 Email: rpgoldman(a)SIFT.net

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[asdf-devel] Moderation becoming a problem
by Robert P. Goldman 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

I know that "everything in moderation" is a virtue, but "moderating everything" is burdensome. I was glad to see so much interest in the ASDF package, and the corresponding urge to participate in the recent discussion about defining symbols in the keyword package, but if you want to participate in an ongoing discussion, please sign up for the mailing list. Especially with the new, unimproved cl.net mailing list software, moderating a large number of non-member posts is a nuisance. Thanks!

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[asdf-devel] Re: ASDF walkthrough
by Faré 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

I put my recording of the ASDF Walkthrough on Youtube. It's nothing great, but oh well, it's as good an introduction to the code as you'll get (for now). It's long, but you can watch at x1.5 speed for reduced bore — or use youtube-dl then vlc to watch at whichever speed you prefer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqqbc31ZZ-U The various cleanups suggested during the talk were committed; they were all valid: the testing errors during the session were due to modifying the files while they were being tested. ASDF 3.1.0.60 passes all tests for me. I think Robert has some more comments to add to the code and things to add to the documentation, but I believe that codewise it might already be a release candidate, so please test! —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org "The Army is a place where you get up early in the morning to be yelled at by people with short haircuts and tiny brains." — Dave Barry

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Re: [asdf-devel] ASDF walkthrough
by Mark Evenson 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Excellent idea! Please let me know when you will be doing this. Currently, I would possibly profit from an explanation of the kinds of "transversal" ASDF does over the "system of systems" it needs to do, but that is not too sharply defined as a question yet. Tersely pecked on my Nexus 5 On Jan 3, 2014 8:10 AM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?= <fahree(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Lisp hackers, > > I'm considering recording a walk through the ASDF sources. > > I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout > with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem > (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). > That should take about 2 hours. > > To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, > and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with > either extending it or hacking its internals. > > If at least one person is familiar with ASDF 2 and has questions, > that could be interesting, or that could be a separate session. > > Please respond me to this email (privately or publicly) if you're interested. > > —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org > We are always in anarchy. But we pay a hefty price maintaining the illusion > that we aren't, and another one being misled by the illusion. >

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[asdf-devel] New version of ASDF with enhanced Allegro test script
by Robert P. Goldman 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

I just pushed version 3.1.0.25 that contains a modified version of the test script dealing with tests of Allegro Common Lisp. I tweaked the configuration of ACL testing to more closely reflect the directory structure and executable naming as Franz ships their systems. Now you can configure by simply pointing the test script at an install directory (32- or 64-bit, conventional or SMP). If you have an existing test configuration, it should not be broken by this (please let me know if that's not correct), but going forward configuration will involve setting fewer environment variables. Cheers, r

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[asdf-devel] ASDF 3.0.2 released
by Robert Goldman 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

With a great deal of patient instruction from Faré, I released ASDF 3.0.2 yesterday. It is far more stable, and provides a wider range of support, than its immediate predecessor. We encourage implementations to update their bundled versions of ASDF. Many thanks to Faré for years of hard work and inspiration in improving ASDF. I will continue periodic releases of ASDF as bugs are found and fixed, but expect (hope) that most of the heavy lifting has been done. Best regards, Robert P.S. if other implementation mailing lists should receive these announcements, please let me know directly, so that I can update my lists.

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[asdf-devel] Request for hands-off asdf.texinfo
by Robert P. Goldman 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

I'm in the middle of editing this, and have reached a point of introducing new nodes. This means that merging any changes will likely be a nightmare. Unfortunately, the node structure is still messed up, and I'm unwilling to push changes until it's fixed. So please, if anyone's thinking about editing this, hold off until future notice. Cheers, r

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[asdf-devel] CCL Windows: output from ccl:fasl-concatenate is "not a FASL file"
by Dave Cooper 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

So I'm trying to get the ASDF test suite running on Windows, and tracked this down as one of the failures for CCL (32-bit and 64-bit). (there were 5 failures out of 47 tests, I haven't looked at the rest yet). This can be replicated as follows (with files from https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jc2cqwpkp06dupm/7lgyRUdwZ5/cl/tests/simple ): [below, substitute ".../'" for your actual path to the test files]: > (lisp-implementation-version) "Version 1.9-r15765 (WindowsX8664)" > (compile-file ".../try1") > (compile-file ".../try2") > (ccl:fasl-concatenate ".../try.wx64fsl" (list ".../try1.wx64fsl" ".../try2.wx64fsl")) > (load ".../try.wx64fsl") ERROR: Not a FASL file. Does anyone recognize what might be going on? -- My Best, Dave Cooper, Genworks Support david.cooper(a)genworks.com, dave.genworks.com(skype) USA: 248-327-3253(o), 1-248-330-2979(mobile) UK: 0191 645 1699

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[asdf-devel] (asdf:build 'foo)
by Faré 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

While we are bikeshedding, I feel that asdf:load-system is (1) still too long a name, and (2) not generic enough, in case I want to use ASDF for stuff that isn't loading code into the current image. Therefore I propose there be (asdf:build 'foo) as the shorthand for the new (as of ASDF3) operation build-op: (defun build (system) (operate 'build-op system)) Shorter to type, more generic, and if we commit that before 3.1.1, available under the #+asdf3.1 feature. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org Your conscience never stops you from doing anything. It just stops you from enjoying it.

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