April 2015 - clo-devel - mailman3.common-lisp.net

Where in our site to hook up the pages about common-lisp.net itself?
by Erik Huelsmann 19 Apr '15

19 Apr '15

Hi, We have a number of pages about common-lisp.net itself: https://common-lisp.net/gitlab-migration-status https://common-lisp.net/gitlab-migration-repository-mapping/ Further more, I think that a number of mails (with their reactions) to this list should be converted to pages on the site: https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/clo-devel/2015-February/000934.ht… (policy/strategy) https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/clo-devel/2015-February/000941.ht… (policy/strategy) https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/clo-devel/2015-April/001036.html (faq) Does anybody have any ideas where to put these in the current site structure? I think it's a good idea that they're easy to find. -- Bye, Erik. http://efficito.com -- Hosted accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.

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What you could help me with
by Erik Huelsmann 19 Apr '15

19 Apr '15

Hi all, I have a not-so-high priority item which I do deem important enough to ask you to do it instead of doing it myself in a few months (when I have time/finished the migrations). So, the task looks not too complex (to me -- let me know if it isn't :-) ): We currently have a page on common-lisp.net which makes very little sense now that we're actively supporting Git and Subversion and phasing out support for all other VC systems. Could someone pick up the task of rewriting that page, possibly after discussing here if they're unsure what the "direction statement" ( https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/clo-devel/2015-February/000934.ht…) means for the items described on that page (or whether items are missing from that page due to the direction statement). Thanks for any and all offers for help. -- Bye, Erik. http://efficito.com -- Hosted accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.

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Migration of CVS repositories to Git
by Erik Huelsmann 19 Apr '15

19 Apr '15

Hi all, Just wanted to announce here that the first batch of CVS repositories (10 projects) has been migrated from CVS to Git+GitLab. Projects were offered to be migrated to Subversion as an alternative migration, but none elected to take that option. Rewrite rules were installed to forward traffic from ViewCVS/ViewVC to the new GitLab repository browsing. Read more here: https://common-lisp.net/news/#2015_04_19 (includes list of projects now migrated). -- Bye, Erik. http://efficito.com -- Hosted accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.

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Signing up via github and/or google?
by Raymond Toy 14 Apr '15

14 Apr '15

Does that work yet? I just tried using my github and google accounts. Neither of them work. Mostly just curious, since I, of course, have an account. But what about new users? -- Ray

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Old git URLs
by Anton Vodonosov 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Hello, I have just discovered that old git URLs, mentioned in various web pages and manuals do not work. For example, git clone git://common-lisp.net/projects/asdf/asdf.git fails with fatal: unable to connect to common-lisp.net: common-lisp.net[0: 148.251.248.130]: errno=Connection refused common-lisp.net[1: 2a01:4f8:200:4310::30]: errno=Network is unreachable New format, as suggested at GitLab project pages: git clone git@common-lisp.net:asdf/asdf.git works. It makes sense, if technically possible, to support old addresses too. Best regards, - Anton

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Mailing list history repaired and restored
by Erik Huelsmann 10 Apr '15

10 Apr '15

Hi, The mailing list history has been restored, finally! The scattered mailing list histories (old mailman system, mlmmj intermediate and new mailman system) have been merged into one and the HTML archives have been re-generated. You should find the history of your favorate mailing list(s) at https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/ -- Bye, Erik. http://efficito.com -- Hosted accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.

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Git hooks for sending commits to a mailing list?
by Raymond Toy 09 Apr '15

09 Apr '15

Before the change over to gitlab, I had set up a git post-receive hook so that all commits were sent to the cmucl-commit (and cmucl-cvs) mailing lists. (The hook also automatically updated a trac issue, but that seems not necessary anymore with gitlab.) I can't seem to find out how to do that now. There's a page on web hooks, but I can't easily tell what I'm supposed to do with that. I just want each commit to be sent to the cmucl-commit mailing list. -- Ray

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Proposed approach for decommissioning of CVS (migration to Git / Subversion)
by Erik Huelsmann 09 Apr '15

09 Apr '15

Hi, As announced in [1] and with follow-up in [2], common-lisp.net in migrating away from the use of CVS as one of the supported version control systems. The git migration as mentioned in those mails has already taken place. The darcs migration requires more attention due to the sheer number of darcs repositories on the system. For that reason, we will be decommissioning CVS as a next step first. The benefits of decommissioning CVS in terms of having simplified system maintenance are bigger than those from decommissioning Darcs, so when looking at it that way, this is a logical step. The migration for the CVS repositories will be carried out according to the steps below. Note that the default conversion for CVS repositories is going to be to /git/ and imported into GitLab. However, we do understand that in some cases this isn't going to meet the maintainers wishes. We'll notify maintainers 1 week before the conversion is going to take place so a migration to Subversion can be requested. * 1 week before conversion, project members will be notified of expected conversion * Conversion to Git (default) or Subversion (upon request) * Import into GitLab, in case of Git conversion * Decommissioning (removing) CVS repository Due to the need to contact project members *and* the fact that we're talking about 110 repositories, migration will take place in batches. If one has multiple repositories on common-lisp.net using CVS, but notification has come in only for one repo, then the batches for the others aren't being worked on yet. If people want to express their preference to migrate their repositories to Subversion in advance of receiving a migration notification mail, requests can be filed in clo's Trac instance: https://trac.common-lisp.net/clo/newticket I intend to send a summary of the above to the site announcements list incorporating any adjustments to the procedure, based on your feedback. [1] https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/clo-devel/2015-February/000934.ht… [2] https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/clo-devel/2015-February/000941.ht… -- Bye, Erik. http://efficito.com -- Hosted accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.

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[clo-devel] Resigning as c-l.net administrator
by Hans Hübner 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Hi folks, I have decided that after a few years, I do no longer want to be operating common-lisp.net - It was fun, but it is time to move on. I have been dealing with mailman administration (handling bounces, occasional password changes, list creation), and with user and project administration. I will be responding to RT requests until the end of this year. Afterwards, I won't do it anymore. I'll also revoke my own root access. If anyone reading this wants to seize responsibility and get some guidance from me, let me know. Cheers, Hans

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http://common-lisp.net is not available
by Anton Vodonosov 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

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mailing lists: archives
by Anton Vodonosov 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

The Internet is full of links to the common-lisp.net mailing list archives. http://lists.common-lisp.net/pipermail/{list-name}/(year}-December/{some-nu… Today all these links are broken. I believen it is necessary to restore old mailmain archives. I hope new mailing list sofware keeps archives. It is necessary to publish a link to new and old archives on the mailins list info page. Also it is desiable that new archives include imported old messages, so that we see topic threads inunterrupted, and search work for the whole archive body, instead of making user to preform two searches: in the old archives and in the new. Best regards, - Anton

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Ensure your male attrctiveness
by Ronald Maldonado 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

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Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
by Marco Antoniotti 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

One more mailing list not working…. Cheers MA Begin forwarded message: > From: postmaster(a)disco.local > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) > Date: May 27, 2013 11:13:20 AM GMT+02:00 > To: marcoxa(a)cs.nyu.edu > > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. > > Delivery to the following recipients failed. > > cdr-discuss(a)common-lisp.net > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.disco.unimib.it > Received-From-MTA: dns;vpn08.vpn.disco.unimib.it > Arrival-Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 11:13:18 +0200 > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;cdr-discuss(a)common-lisp.net > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 5.1.1 <cdr-discuss(a)common-lisp.net>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table > > From: Marco Antoniotti <marcoxa(a)cs.nyu.edu> > Subject: Re: [cdr-discuss] ECLM and ELS 2013 -- CDR Meeting? > Date: May 27, 2013 11:13:13 AM GMT+02:00 > To: "cdr-discuss(a)common-lisp.net Discussions" <cdr-discuss(a)common-lisp.net> > > > Dear all, > > so, is there any interest in making a CDR BoF at ECLM or ELS? I have a few ideas about a (short) list of topics for discussion. > > All the best > > MA > > > > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 14:08 , Pascal Costanza <pc(a)p-cos.net> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Sounds good… >> >> Pascal >> >> On 15 Feb 2013, at 20:22, Marco Antoniotti <marcoxa(a)cs.nyu.edu> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> how about setting up an "official" CDR meeting at ECLM and ELS 2013? >>> >>> Just an idea…. >>> >>> -- >>> Marco Antoniotti >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cdr-discuss mailing list >>> cdr-discuss(a)common-lisp.net >>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cdr-discuss >> >> -- >> Pascal Costanza >> >> > > -- > Marco Antoniotti > > > > > -- Marco Antoniotti

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Re: asdf, poiu, etc.
by Anton Vodonosov 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

17.04.2013, 00:41, "Faré" <fahree(a)gmail.com>: > [This is a test of the new asdf-devel mailing-list.] It would be good if the mailing list added [asdf-devel] to the subject line. > While I'm at it, may I attract your attention to POIU? It now has a > deterministic mode, so it's reasonably usable in your buildbots. > > Several tweaks since release 2.33, but nothing really new since then. > > If your implementation hasn't upgraded to 2.33 yet, now is a good time.

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Registering a new project
by Marco Antoniotti 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Dear all, I want to register a new project on common-lisp.net. Alas,it appears that the address <admin [to] common-lisp.net> is non functional. Incidentally, how is git support working at this point? All the best -- Marco Antoniotti

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(no subject)
by Tracy 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

http://dknet.co.uk/gmail.html?4766

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Re: Questions about new mailing lists setup on common-lisp.net
by Jean-Claude Beaudoin 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Drew Crampsie <drew.crampsie(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > 1- Is there a web based interface to browse the archive of a list? > > Not yet. It is trivial to do and will be done, but this is the first time > it has been requested ,and there are only 15 or so messages that need > archived (lists are not very busy it seems), so it will be done shorty. It > is trivial to do so : http://mlmmj.org/archive/mlmmj/2010-08/0000002.htmland > http://mlmmj.org/docs/readme-archives/ . > > > 2- Is the mailman era archive of each list now simply > unreachable from the web? > > It shouldn't be. Give me a http:// URL that should work? > > > 3- Is there a web based interface for new users to subscribe > to a list? > > not really, though it may be done soon. But, <a href="mailto: > projectfoo-devel+subscribe(a)common-lisp.net"> ... </a> is easy enough for > now. > > > From what I understand now there is no password associated > with a subscription to a list, nor is there any password > associated with the owner/admin role of a list. > > Can you tell me what you have read that makes it seem like very very > insecure? Also, what are you talking about "password associated > with ..."? > > > Am I wrong > in believing that now someone simply has to send emails > with a forged From: field to hijack control of the list/subscription? > > Well, what made you believe that? Is there a simple way that folks can > easily hijack a list over email? > > As far as I know, it was audited by a company that worries about such > things, http://mlmmj.org/docs/readme-security/ , and does not have a > problem... can you please show me how/where/when you are able to hijack a > list? mlmmj-test(a)common-lisp.net is a great place to start, and please > feel free to hijack it. > > Let me know if I have answered all the questions, and let me know the > security holes you have discovered. > > -- drewc > > Indeed you have answered all the questions I asked and this does clarify the current situation. Thank you, Jean-Claude Beaudoin > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Jean-Claude Beaudoin < > jean.claude.beaudoin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I have been trying to figure out the new project mailing lists setup >> on common-lisp.net for the last few hours. I think I more or less >> understand now how the lists setup is to be used but I still >> have a few questions left: >> >> 1- Is there a web based interface to browse the archive of a list? >> >> 2- Is the mailman era archive of each list now simply >> unreachable from the web? >> >> 3- Is there a web based interface for new users to subscribe >> to a list? Or, do we have to explain them on the project page >> that they need to send email to say >> "projectfoo-devel+subscribe(a)common-lisp.net" in order >> to subscribe to the projectfoo-devel list? >> >> 4- From what I understand now there is no password associated >> with a subscription to a list, nor is there any password >> associated with the owner/admin role of a list. Am I wrong >> in believing that now someone simply has to send emails >> with a forged From: field to hijack control of the list/subscription? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jean-Claude Beaudoin >> >> >

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web admin contact info
by Daniel Herring 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Hi all, Sorry for the broadcast. I lost track of the best way to contact the maintainers of common-lisp.net and wiki.alu.org. Regarding cl.net, the http://common-lisp.net/project/clo/ page is outdated, and the "email this list" link to http://lists.common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/clo-devel is broken. There is no clear link to contact the site maintainers. Regarding the "ALU" wiki, I would like to forward a message regarding some spam on that site. It would also be good to fix the webmaster address on the "About" page (http://wiki.alu.org/ALU) to something more appropriate. Thanks, Daniel

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Unsatisfied user.
by Antoniotti Marco 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Dear all, I understand that the service provided by cl.net is purely voluntary, free and that yadda, yadda, yadda. But the pages appearing when one goes to http://common-lisp.net is simply not useful. The main thing missing is the list of projects. Where is it? Also, the mailing lists do not appear to work anymore. Not just a few. Also, I do not understand why, even if "the server must move" it also had to "move to a complicated web infrastructure that has many more things that can go wrong". I don't know about other people, but I'd vote for the restoration of the previous version of the overall infrastructure. All the best... -- Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01 DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://bimib.disco.unimib.it Viale Sarca 336 I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY Please note that I am not checking my Spam-box anymore. Please do not forward this email without asking me first.

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Monthly mailing list announcements?
by Raymond Toy 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

I just noticed that I don't get the monthly mailing list reminders about subscriptions and passwords that I used to get. Are they supposed to be working or have they been disabled? And where are the mailing list archives again? All of the old links are broken. Ray

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More mailing list issues
by Raymond Toy 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Can't remember if I mentioned this before, but when I submit a ticket to trac, trac sends and email to the ticket mailing list. (cmucl-ticket in this case). But the message is held for moderation because it's coming from a wrong address, I guess. In this case, the From address is cmucl-devel@. This used to work, without me having to approve of every message. Did some old configuration not get restored or do I now need to update something? Ray

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Updating of GIT repositories mirrored on common-lisp.net is broken!
by Jean-Claude Beaudoin 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

For projects that mirror their GIT repositories on common-lisp.net it looks very much like the automatic (cron based) updating has been broken since last April, 23. I think the problem comes from a stale lock file named cron.root.update-git-mirrors.run in directory /custom/run. Could someone with root access remove that stale lock and assure that the updating script can then run properly? Thanks, Jean-Claude Beaudoin

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by 赵截 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

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Mail from common-lisp.net blocked by Verizon?
by Erik Huelsmann 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

>From the mail logs: Dec 16 01:42:59 alpha-cl-net postfix/smtp[21921]: A6B0D356697: to=< avagayev(a)verizon.net>, relay=relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11]:25, delay=394970, delays=394970/0.17/0.26/0, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] refused to talk to me: 571 Email from 50.7.166.114 is currently blocked by Verizon Online's anti-spam system. The email sender or Email Service Provider may visit http://www.verizon.net/whitelist and request removal of the block. 131216) Any takers? Do we have users in that domain? -- Bye, Erik. http://efficito.com -- Hosted accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.

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