October 2016 - clo-devel - mailman3.common-lisp.net

Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook.com/... delisting requested
by Erik Huelsmann 23 Oct '16

23 Oct '16

Hi all, Microsoft's mail services are a tough party to work with. While GMail uses a moving average system to block mail (in the sense that they never *completely* shut down a sender, but monitor the quality of the mail stream coming from it, even if it's 99.9% shut down, Microsoft will simply kill off the entire mailflow, disabling the possibility of automatic rehabilitation. Today I had to ask Microsoft to delist us (this unfortunately happened before, so I could say "again"); the reason is that we have a relatively large number of moderators subscribed to Microsoft sevices. Why is this a problem? Well, Mailman will stubbornly try to deliver moderation reminders, even if the reminders have been rejected by the MS mailserver for suspect virusses. With very few actual subscribers on MS infrastructure, these reminders constitute a high percentage of our mail flow to e.g. outlook.com. How can you help? 1. As a moderator, you could use another mail account than an MS account to do your moderation 2* If you don't feel like moderating your mailing list anyway, turn off moderation by plain rejecting all mail which would otherwise need moderation (most notably posts by non-members) 3. Please act on your moderation requests so we don't generate endless reminders (presumably with spammish or other bad content) * Or tell us that you don't -- we know how to configure your list accordingly What we did to help: 1. We re-instated our mail virusscanner -- which we used to run, but apparently didn't anymore 2. We tried to find (unsuccessfully) if it's possible to make Mailman send reminders without quoting the content of the actual message -- Bye, Erik. http://efficito.com -- Hosted accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.

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Some emails getting bounced
by Dave Cooper 23 Oct '16

23 Oct '16

Hi, Mario noticed that his mails to common-lisp.net were being bounced. I also noticed that mail to dcooper(a)common-lisp.net is bouncing. I'll forward the bounced message. Is this a known problem? Regards, Dave -- My Best, Dave Cooper, david.cooper(a)gen.works genworks.com, gendl.org +1 248-330-2979

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github down, gitlab.clnet up.
by Dave Cooper 21 Oct '16

21 Oct '16

Just a note that github (and other major sites in the U.S.) appear to be under heavy cyber attack today. Meanwhile gitlab.common-lisp.net continues business as usual. Knock wood, but this kind of thing continues to make the case for CL projects moving their hosting to gitlab.common-lisp.net. -- My Best, Dave Cooper, david.cooper(a)gen.works genworks.com, gendl.org +1 248-330-2979

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Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
by Dave Cooper 20 Oct '16

20 Oct '16

FYI, another one. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon(a)googlemail.com> Date: Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:14 AM Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) To: david.cooper(a)genworks.com Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: cyang(a)common-lisp.net Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain common-lisp.net by mail.common-lisp.net. [2a01:4f8:200:4310::30]. The error that the other server returned was: 550 Unrouteable address ----- Original message ----- DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=genworks-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Zvf1i1fnsjGF2keLi6wyxsmud14N7f6vvVpYM64/azo=; b=RIuN/M073PSTXnEvv8ND/sD5EK38Q1ayyUSUyZth1obz8JbSmg5x3gl4fnlrNy33HH 1UYS9Z6n/bgV2xNWPx4Y8RCkQKDas3ouEVIet7g jsCR/taP+yKhz8qbXZcPHbCsPfB+8 bY1x6c6WH/upUHvLy1lPIZsVNyEOqk8Z54HKfvYA Q9TKppKFdPfoc/2TTrHFn4bGvpUn fjOWok92bhFNKe3tG/MEqnyW+S5ApRXMt7J7qSktR0D7I9XbeiuDuIN 1MswrkYX+Kyi8 7d8CUandkFRVxHQb3Bte35LQtJnckTq/akVMcgZLKSx5I1gYf+ hh1ooI5SvYIt2a9dfF eM1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Zvf1i1fnsjGF2keLi6wyxsmud14N7f6vvVpYM64/azo=; b=gtIm82yLeO+6XMZLKfSzIHpFUhPtp7VskBor8UYE+s7lBsHj/hvwG71Yvae5/FwOnA O0+QSmImF9gKTZvZqDGhCFx7N8ElBeT5QPrQ3Jt/g+Usis2M7Lx93D2stP/ cxM485h7s a3JOMvPaydSOon8xOPtCniVF9awaVucZgBk82on1rDpzbFed7rPU2+iU/ 6hcheATpGxD VRbcciBwbbXMSaH0OfzzIFLDdW56vKrEh8IFlbTiZldQ8XvxO+ Sb3anbBy7FPkdjklie lTPcjBWTPMF6Zh5OaXAXliTpm7fe6BbCVV9MlTvCzGjPe5VITfqdoNK6zP3h gKZcsUW3 lk+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RlZfk/23g1tw/zksON43V/ np72wXZO7p4p8Uvf3ooUbOyiRBSQYT4oX2kybtN/Y37NdoqXIGyw8s/oWLA== X-Received: by 10.36.154.66 with SMTP id l63mr8935306ite.5.1476976492769; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:14:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.20.108 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Cooper <david.cooper(a)genworks.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:14:51 -0400 Message-ID: <CAHBe5Xh98RFBCZr1d+wNgybYp5karaDVwvtCR7PMsGp76n8E Vg(a)mail.gmail.com> Subject: Testing mail to cyang To: cyang(a)common-lisp.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c1142d631894f053f4d6313 Hi Cherie, This is a test to your @clnet email address. Dave -- My Best, Dave Cooper, david.cooper(a)gen.works genworks.com, gendl.org +1 248-330-2979 -- My Best, Dave Cooper, david.cooper(a)gen.works genworks.com, gendl.org +1 248-330-2979

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Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
by Dave Cooper 20 Oct '16

20 Oct '16

FYI... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon(a)googlemail.com> Date: Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:08 AM Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) To: david.cooper(a)genworks.com Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: dcooper(a)common-lisp.net Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain common-lisp.net by mail.common-lisp.net. [2a01:4f8:200:4310::30]. The error that the other server returned was: 550 Unrouteable address ----- Original message ----- DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=genworks-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pjtJFE3EQKNPxPbxu8CJR6rE89MsLiE22DfLVyIjL/o=; b=GXb6jNETClsiCPol8voxEhAX5y7Lv05bbVsrkwz1J7tlY27+RyeCim/e+d357OZ2oP ELX++83AN8FgCsMv+Tt3VcsnIU92kySo+gQ6dTNEudjpr4KC4crhYjrHI5k0IBj rFOUM wnpoZchD+S8+fdx1H9M14fRlbN0/0jSCvAo8eqYRNqTdg2/ ExUe4mYBfOcraFUjCdZs1 jk67tJKKVF7ngeQVbrRpYz4WF911Jwc9yT3gkHOodjFdAHEPT5R0ldwZGQMV CnaspqXC 3MzjdvvCzjnkdleZQz46caaP+JDyKYCTpV5gOB6ZJvfTV8o7hZ2dTEL yfX22GnvnoF0m m7kA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pjtJFE3EQKNPxPbxu8CJR6rE89MsLiE22DfLVyIjL/o=; b=T/E7XvtRiEYsBv+7nNQEGDwtU5nqNfxomrZgaBGC17DfxIxiwFrBdAToGB362K2PeC bSEik6GWFuhDn2RseuqaqgIK9JJS1DS/WrOWZirjS0jICebfzwqekRtlxEmGHR 6LtWaj 5yrOplUf+XNWEirjhW6i/2gc3PR338Yg+aSOqEGpVuut7mhrETBmVN/NeAf+ xTNwyAuu 1Ez0TQN8VMliBHAqeoXC7LOxmBowGdTN9q3L78Du15bZE92ntnd+43Kj0I/ TbO48sSKn 9v15WT1qwuYD/AGYY5XBbMw+DiXQyWjGWLUfgY1olyYLi46llXHsYP vM6IH/b6wcb5W7 sQzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RnSjvHjJO1tk64rX3AUq4ofIW1x9o oUKOJWWkGmiinUxmcVPNBXJe5dMooKkYDhCUU+I5/j5ZnSbk9TnA== X-Received: by 10.36.154.66 with SMTP id l63mr8891116ite.5.1476976116407; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.20.108 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:08:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Cooper <david.cooper(a)genworks.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:08:35 -0400 Message-ID: <CAHBe5Xjh88D3ojiJoAi_1nFFgDpXQRDMLc+U31gaWq0YP_ fvdw(a)mail.gmail.com> Subject: test mail To: dcooper(a)common-lisp.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c1142d6c2a8da053f4d4cc8 testing do myself @clnet. -- My Best, Dave Cooper, david.cooper(a)gen.works genworks.com, gendl.org +1 248-330-2979 -- My Best, Dave Cooper, david.cooper(a)gen.works genworks.com, gendl.org +1 248-330-2979

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Unreachable merge request
by Raymond Toy 07 Oct '16

07 Oct '16

I was trying to look at https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/cmucl/cmucl/merge_requests/16 and gitlab responds with a 500 error. This was working before the merge happened. This merge request still works: https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/cmucl/cmucl/merge_requests/12 The only thing different that I can tell is that 12 was created by me and 16 was created by a contributor. Any ideas?

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