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Re: [lists] Re: [clo-devel] Getting clhp installed on Apache
by Erik Enge 14 Nov '03

14 Nov '03

Anthony Ventimiglia <anthony(a)ventimiglia.org> writes: > I've documented it pretty well in the INSTALL file, basically we need > cmucl, asdf, apache, gcc and apxs (for building the module) apxs is > part of apache, with the Debian system you'll need to $ apt-get > install apache-dev to get apxs. Ok, looks fairly straightforward. Any risk of this eating up all CPU or something like that? Erik.

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[clo-devel] Getting clhp installed on Apache
by Anthony Ventimiglia 14 Nov '03

14 Nov '03

I don't know if I should direct this here or to admin, but it seems most of you read both lists. Anyway, when I first got CLHP started, I asked if you guys would be willing to install it on the common-lisp.net server. I didn't want to install it until the Apache module was working, and that time has come. So I'd like to know if we can install it, so I can actually use it for the clhp home page? -- (incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)

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Re: [clo-devel] Re: [lists] Re: Re: Payment Past Due, account
by Erik Enge 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Anthony Ventimiglia <anthony(a)ventimiglia.org> writes: > Um er "Package" in Lispspeak Actually, no. Look at Franz' FTP server (opensource.franz.com) which is most definitely a package but hardly a library. Much better would it have been if Franz wrote an FTP server library and then wrote their FTP server on top of it. Then, if I thought they approach on the FTP server was poor and wanted to do it differently I wouldn't have to implement the library all over again. In Lisp the technical difference between application and library is certainly less clear than in (for example) C but the programmer still have to think about how others will his software for it to become a good library. > Well now you've given me incentive. The Bayesian end is pretty much > complete, And writing a working filter should be pretty easy. I want > to give it a HTTP frontend (via clhp) to make control easier, kind of > like the way Popfile works, I could make the filter work as a daemon, > which would filter every message that comes in and add an extra header > indicating the "Classification" (Bayesian filter allow for more than > just Spam and non-spam). Then you could use procmail to filter based > on the header. I don't know how it would integrate so if you could > give me some insight, I could design it to fit. We use Exim at the moment and /etc/aliases to shovel mail into Mailman. I think Exim has some features to redirect messages into your software and then back out again. Erik.

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Re: [clo-devel] Re: [lists] Re: Re: Payment Past Due, account
by Erik Enge 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Anthony Ventimiglia <anthony(a)ventimiglia.org> writes: > I have been slowly converting my C++ library to Lisp, which I'll > eventually bring here. Excellent. Be sure to make it a library. :-) Once you've done that, perhaps I could see if there's any way to use it for common-lisp.net. Erik.

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Re: [clo-devel] Getting clhp installed on Apache
by Erik Enge 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Anthony Ventimiglia <anthony(a)ventimiglia.org> writes: > So I'd like to know if we can install it, so I can actually use it for > the clhp home page? What would an install require? Erik.

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Re: [clo-devel] Re: [lists] Re: Re: Payment Past Due, account
by Erik Enge 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Anthony Ventimiglia <anthony(a)ventimiglia.org> writes: > I don't know what kind of filtering rates Spamassassin gets, but the > Bayesian filter I use (PopFile) has a success rate over 98%. The biggest problem I have here is that I get false positives when I set the this-is-spam score lower than four and most spam I get is between three and four. Erik.

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Re: [clo-devel] Re: [lists] Re: Re: Payment Past Due, account
by Erik Enge 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Ivan Boldyrev <boldyrev+nospam(a)cgitftp.uiggm.nsc.ru> writes: > Spamassassin now supports bayesian filtering too. I use that at work but I don't find it to be terribly helpful. Plenty spam still come through. > Ah!.. I read list with Gmane newsgate... That is the downside, yes. However, if people who do post are not subscribed to this list I promise to be quick and add a filter to let them through. Of course, you can subscribe to the list and turn of delivery and then you can post freely. Erik.

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Re: [clo-devel] Re: Please upload your public GPG key to common-lisp.net
by Erik Enge 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

Anthony Ventimiglia <anthony(a)ventimiglia.org> writes: > Sounds great, how will we handle signing of those of us that are > already members ? So far I have just asked that you upload your keys to your home directories. Once most/all have done that (only 25% or so have done this so far) I will send an encrypted/signed mail to your email account and expect you to decrypt and send it back to me. Not perfect but I can't think of a better way now that we are in this situation. Erik.

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Re: [clo-devel] Re: Payment Past Due, account
by Erik Enge 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

"Alvaro Miles" <qnhfla17ln(a)yahoo.com> writes: > [snip spam] Ok, that's not fun. Our options: a) install spamassassin in which case it doesn't work very well and we'll still get spam every now and then, b) just let it keep pouring in, or b) close the list to non-subscribed traffic. What do you think? Erik.

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Re: [clo-devel] Re: Please upload your public GPG key to common-lisp.net
by Erik Enge 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

Marco Baringer <mb(a)bese.it> writes: > which means that _i'll_ trust common-lisp.net's key, but i was > wondering about people who aren't developers on common-lisp.net. It's my understanding that here's where the "web of trust" is supposed to help. If common-lisp.net verifies plenty keys, then those keys verify it, then prehaps the chances of you knowing someone who has verified it (directly on indirectly) are growing by each developer added to common-lisp.net. Are there any other ways of doing it? Since you now only have one key you must trust it should be easier to find out if it has been hijacked. You have all of common-lisp.net you could call on the phone to verify the key, you could send emails, you could stop by #lisp. None of these are absolutes but I could think they help? Erik.

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