Hi everyone,
First off, I noticed a slight usability problem with the CSS stylesheet used by common-lisp.net: When inside a smallish browser window, the lotus background image is beneath the text and makes it hard to read.
Here is a before/after to illustrate what I am on about: http://imgur DOT com/a/bac8s (including other minor changes)
If you guys need help with the stylesheet I would love to lend a hand!
Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what should/could be in a CL logo?
* the letters “CL” since that abbreviation is quite widespread, I guess * do people want a mascot? there was that lisp alien... * the “λ” and jin+yang symbols seems popular for lisp related things
Any ideas on other things suited to illustrate a CL logo?
Regard, max
Hi Max,
thanks for your efforts!
If you have time, we would really appreciate your help with the website and its design. I at least am somwhat swamped in work right now so I would rather come back to you next week to discuss details. Would that be OK?
Regards,
Mario
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Max Rottenkolber max@mr.gy wrote:
Hi everyone,
First off, I noticed a slight usability problem with the CSS stylesheet used by common-lisp.net: When inside a smallish browser window, the lotus background image is beneath the text and makes it hard to read.
Here is a before/after to illustrate what I am on about: http://imgur DOT com/a/bac8s (including other minor changes)
If you guys need help with the stylesheet I would love to lend a hand!
Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what should/could be in a CL logo?
- the letters “CL” since that abbreviation is quite widespread, I
guess
- do people want a mascot? there was that lisp alien...
- the “λ” and jin+yang symbols seems popular for lisp related things
Any ideas on other things suited to illustrate a CL logo?
Regard, max
Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what should/could be in a CL logo?
The rights to the logo currently being used at common-lisp.net (attached) were granted to the Common Lisp Foundation by Guy Steele. You may recognize this as coming from the cover of The Little Lisper.
I realize this logo does not explicitly say "Common Lisp."
How about morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something like a "C" (and leaving the other lambda alone, since this is already a form of letter "L") ?
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:56:44 -0400, Dave Cooper wrote:
Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what should/could be in a CL logo?
The rights to the logo currently being used at common-lisp.net (attached) were granted to the Common Lisp Foundation by Guy Steele. You may recognize this as coming from the cover of The Little Lisper.
I realize this logo does not explicitly say "Common Lisp."
How about morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something like a "C" (and leaving the other lambda alone, since this is already a form of letter "L") ?
I had the same idea in fact, but I realized that my graphics skills are not sufficient to produce an acceptable result. ;) I had the following idea: Why not organize a public submission period and then hold a public poll to find a canonical logo? I imagine it like this:
1. Provide a trusted public submission portal (e.g. “mail your submission to logos@common-lisp.net”). 2. Announce submission deadline on all public CL forums (mailing lists, nntp, reddit, planet lisp, ...) 3. Hold a public poll on the submitted logos (again announce on all forums) 4. Declare the most popular the new community logo
I would volunteer to organize the process, and I think c-l.net is in a position to provide the necesary “neutral ground”. I think there are some benefits to this approach as we can outsource the graphical talent and get a result that the community decided on. :)
Hi Cherie,
Have you been following this discussion?
What do you think of forking something a bit more CL-specific off of Guy Steele's double-lambda logo (for CLF as well as for use on common-lisp.net) (see below)?
Please advise,
Dave
P.S. For those of you on clo-devel who don't know Cherie Yang, she is the designer-in-chief for common-lisp.net. The reported stylesheet issue would also be of interest to Cheryl, if she hasn't seen that yet.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Max Rottenkolber max@mr.gy wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:56:44 -0400, Dave Cooper wrote:
Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what should/could be in a CL logo?
The rights to the logo currently being used at common-lisp.net
(attached)
were granted to the Common Lisp Foundation by Guy Steele. You may
recognize
this as coming from the cover of The Little Lisper.
I realize this logo does not explicitly say "Common Lisp."
How about morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something
like a
"C" (and leaving the other lambda alone, since this is already a form of letter "L") ?
I had the same idea in fact, but I realized that my graphics skills are not sufficient to produce an acceptable result. ;) I had the following idea: Why not organize a public submission period and then hold a public poll to find a canonical logo? I imagine it like this:
- Provide a trusted public submission portal (e.g. “mail your submission to logos@common-lisp.net”).
- Announce submission deadline on all public CL forums (mailing lists, nntp, reddit, planet lisp, ...)
- Hold a public poll on the submitted logos (again announce on all forums)
- Declare the most popular the new community logo
I would volunteer to organize the process, and I think c-l.net is in a position to provide the necesary “neutral ground”. I think there are some benefits to this approach as we can outsource the graphical talent and get a result that the community decided on. :)
Hello all,
I agree that organizing a public submission period would be a great idea. I'm not too fond of the idea of morphing the current logo, as the lambda and Y complement each other so well (lambda and fixed point combinator). One possible alternative is to write "common lisp" underneath the image - Just an idea.
Could someone please forward me the reported stylesheet issue? I may be able to make a fix.
Thanks, Cheryl Yang
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Dave Cooper david.cooper@genworks.com wrote:
Hi Cherie,
Have you been following this discussion?
What do you think of forking something a bit more CL-specific off of Guy Steele's double-lambda logo (for CLF as well as for use on common-lisp.net) (see below)?
Please advise,
Dave
P.S. For those of you on clo-devel who don't know Cherie Yang, she is the designer-in-chief for common-lisp.net. The reported stylesheet issue would also be of interest to Cheryl, if she hasn't seen that yet.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Max Rottenkolber max@mr.gy wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:56:44 -0400, Dave Cooper wrote:
Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what should/could be in a CL logo?
The rights to the logo currently being used at common-lisp.net
(attached)
were granted to the Common Lisp Foundation by Guy Steele. You may
recognize
this as coming from the cover of The Little Lisper.
I realize this logo does not explicitly say "Common Lisp."
How about morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something
like a
"C" (and leaving the other lambda alone, since this is already a form of letter "L") ?
I had the same idea in fact, but I realized that my graphics skills are not sufficient to produce an acceptable result. ;) I had the following idea: Why not organize a public submission period and then hold a public poll to find a canonical logo? I imagine it like this:
- Provide a trusted public submission portal (e.g. “mail your submission to logos@common-lisp.net”).
- Announce submission deadline on all public CL forums (mailing lists, nntp, reddit, planet lisp, ...)
- Hold a public poll on the submitted logos (again announce on all forums)
- Declare the most popular the new community logo
I would volunteer to organize the process, and I think c-l.net is in a position to provide the necesary “neutral ground”. I think there are some benefits to this approach as we can outsource the graphical talent and get a result that the community decided on. :)
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