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December 2021

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Online Lisp Meeting #13
by Michał "phoe" Herda 29 Dec '21

29 Dec '21

Hello, time for the thirteenth Online Lisp Meeting! We'll have David Botton who will talk about CLOG, the Page vs Screen Approach to the Web, and the new CLOG GUI Builder Tool. > The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI, CLOG for short, uses web technology to > produce graphical user interfaces for applications locally or > remotely. CLOG can take the place, or work alongside, most > cross-platform GUI frameworks and website frameworks. To help > understand CLOG better the Page vs Screen approache to web development > are illustrated. Also a first look at the CLOG GUI Builder. Date/time/location: * Date: Tue 11th January 2022 * Time: 18:00 CET - https://time.is/en/CET // 12:00 ET - https://time.is/en/ET * Talk: https://www.twitch.tv/TwitchPlaysCommonLisp A mailing list has been created for the purpose of organizing and promoting the online talks. Further announcements will be posted there. See https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/online-lisp-meets New videos always welcome! (Unless you are preparing your next big thing for the next ELS and you do not want to make spoilers.) Calendar invitations will follow in replies to this mail. BR and see you, Michał "phoe" Herda

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Online Lisp Meeting #12
by Michał "phoe" Herda 17 Dec '21

17 Dec '21

Hello, I hope you haven't forgotten about the Meetings. I sure haven't! Time to organize yet another one, or even two - since I got two videos, one right after the other. The announcement for the second meeting will come tomorrow though; let's focus on the first one for now! This time, we'll have Jan Moringen talking about a modern (and already rather successful!) approach to parsing the holy scriptures of Common Lisp - the language specification in its TeX source format. > The most important specification documents for the Common Lisp > programming language, namely the Common Lisp ANSI standard and the > Common Lisp HyperSpec (CLHS), are both provided under restrictive > licenses (and at a cost in case of ANSI). This situation prevents the > creation and distribution of derived works such as alternative > presentations or corrected revisions. This inability to produce > derived works has lead to the creation of independent errata lists > that cannot be "applied" to the specification. > > Despite these obstacles, a way forward, albeit one that involves lots > of effort, has been known for some time: start from the TeX sources of > the draft specification ("dpANS"), which are in the public domain, and > create new specification documents. Those documents can then improve > on the hyperlinking and presentation of the CLHS as well as > incorporate corrections. The high effort associated with this > approach comes from the fact that the tools that were used to create > the CLHS are not publicly available. > > This presentation explains the situation outlined above in more detail > and introduces our project to create the required tools and produce > new specification documents from the dpANS TeX sources and X3J13 > cleanup issue files. After mentioning some of the problems in the > draft specification as well as the CLHS that we plan to address, we > present our method for parsing and processing the sources. After > that, we show current and future applications of the parsing, > transformation and generation process. We conclude by sharing open > problems as well as a call to action aimed at re-discovering the most > recent versions of the X3J13 issue files which we, so far, did not > manage to find anywhere. A short Jitsi talk with everyone will happen just after the meeting. Where and when exactly - I'll link it in a follow-up mail. Date/time/location: * Date: 17th December 2021 * Time: 12:00 CET - https://time.is/en/CET * Talk: https://www.twitch.tv/TwitchPlaysCommonLisp A mailing list has been created for the purpose of organizing and promoting the online talks. Further announcements will be posted there. See https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/online-lisp-meets New videos welcome! If you have anything lispy that you would like to talk about, please let me know. Calendar invitations will follow in replies to this mail. BR and see you, Michał "phoe" Herda

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