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[pro] CL-PDF in ACL 64bit - anyone know how to get 64bit ZLIB?
by Martin Mallinson 22 Aug '14

22 Aug '14

CL-PDF looks very useful for me. Thanks Marc and the team at ILC2014 for this and all the great info! Ok, now to use CL-PDF on Allegro I SVN'ed it from https://github.com/mbattyani/cl-pdf and tried to build it with acl-load the essence of which is (defparameter *cl-pdf-home* excl:*source-pathname*) (defun cl-file (x) (tpl:do-command "cl" (namestring (merge-pathnames x *cl-pdf-home*)))) (eval-when (load) (mapc #'cl-file '("defpackage" "cl-zlib-small" "pdf" "pdf-base" "pdf-geom" ))) note the lower case do-command "cl" not "CL" since I am in modern mode ACL 9.0 64 bit Anyhow it does not work, since cl-zlib-small.lisp tells me to: (defvar *libgz-path* "/usr/lib/libz.so" "Set this variable to point to the location of the zlib library (libz.so or zlib.dll) on your system.") which begs the question of where is zlib.dll for 64 bits? It is not on my machine and I cant seem to find it on the WWW... Any LISPer's using CL-PDF on ACL WIndows 64bit who have solved this problem? Any help much appreciated... Martin M

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[pro] AMOP question: When and where is slot-value-using-class called?
by Jean-Claude Beaudoin 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

Hello CL Pros, Lately I have been trying to understand the inner workings of the MOP slot protocol as I go through yet one more reading of the usual CLOS litterature (CLHS, AMOP, OOP The CLOS Perspective). To that end I put together a little test file (here attached) and ran its code in sbcl, clisp, ccl, acl and lispworks. I got different results in pretty much each CL implementation on the tracing of calls to slot-value-using-class. I am puzzled and baffled. The results I see go like this: sbcl: only accessors (foo-a) call s-v-u-c. clisp: both accessors and cl:slot-value call s-v-u-c. ccl: s-v-u-c is called neither by cl:slot-value nor by accessors. acl: both accessors and cl:slot-value call s-v-u-c. lispworks: only cl:slot-value calls s-v-u-c. Only clisp and acl seem to agree. And the cherry on the cake's icing comes with sbcl when then defmethod on s-v-u-c is moved ahead of the defclass/make-instance sequence. Then, in sbcl, both accessors and cl::slot-value call s-v-u-c as in clisp and acl. So my question is: Which one is right? Thank you for your help. Jean-Claude Beaudoin

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[pro] Meaning of "inline" when applied to a generic function?
by Jean-Claude Beaudoin 10 Jul '14

10 Jul '14

Hello CL pros, I am trying to figure out the meaning of the inline declaration when the so qualified function happens to be a generic function. As in: (declaim (inline foo)) (defgeneric foo (a b)) What can be expected of a compiler when it then faces a call to foo while the above is in effect? Is this an obvious no-op or did some find something useful to do in such a context? Thanks for your help, JCB

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[pro] [CfPart] International Lisp Conference 2014, August 15-17, Montreal
by Didier Verna 10 Jul '14

10 Jul '14

ILC 2014 - International Lisp Conference "Lisp on the Move" August 15-17 2014, Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada Sponsored by the Association of Lisp Users In cooperation with: ACM SIGPLAN http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/ Latest News: * Only 4 days left before the early registration deadline! * Registration is now open. See http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/registration.php * Invited speakers announced. Christian Queinnec, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant, Stefan Monnier, Marc Battyani. Scope: Lisp is one of the greatest ideas from computer science and a major influence for almost all programming languages and for all sufficiently complex software applications. The International Lisp Conference is a forum for the discussion of Lisp and, in particular, the design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp dialects. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. This year's focus is directed towards integrated solutions, including mobile computing. The conference also provides slots for lightning talks, to be registered on-site every day. The full programme is available here: http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/program.php Important Dates: - July 14, 2014: Early registration deadline - August 15, 2014: Conference starts Organizing Committee: General Chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Chair: Didier Verna (EPITA Research lab, Paris, France) Local chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Committee: Charlotte Herzeel, IMEC, ExaScience Life Lab, Belgium Dave Herman, Mozilla Research, USA Greg Pfeil, Clozure Associates, USA Irène Anne Durand, LaBRI University of Bordeaux, France Jim Newton, Cadence Design Systems, France Kuroda Hisao, Mathematical Systems Inc., Japan Matthew Might, University of Utah, USA Nicolas Neuss, Friedrich Alexander Universitat, Germany Ralf Möller, TUHH, Germany Sam Tobin-Hochstadt, Northeastern University, USA William Byrd, University of Utah, USA Contact: ilc14-organizing-committee at alu.org For more information, see http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/ -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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[pro] [CfPart] International Lisp Conference 2014, August 15-17, Montreal
by Didier Verna 27 Jun '14

27 Jun '14

ILC 2014 - International Lisp Conference "Lisp on the Move" August 15-17 2014, Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada Sponsored by the Association of Lisp Users In cooperation with: ACM SIGPLAN http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/ Latest News: * Registration is now open. See http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/registration.php * Invited speakers announced. Christian Queinnec, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant, Stefan Monnier, Marc Battyani. Scope: Lisp is one of the greatest ideas from computer science and a major influence for almost all programming languages and for all sufficiently complex software applications. The International Lisp Conference is a forum for the discussion of Lisp and, in particular, the design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp dialects. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. This year's focus is directed towards integrated solutions, including mobile computing. The conference also provides slots for lightning talks, to be registered on-site every day. The full programme is available here: http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/program.php Important Dates: - July 14, 2014: Early registration deadline - August 15, 2014: Conference starts Organizing Committee: General Chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Chair: Didier Verna (EPITA Research lab, Paris, France) Local chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Committee: Charlotte Herzeel, IMEC, ExaScience Life Lab, Belgium Dave Herman, Mozilla Research, USA Greg Pfeil, Clozure Associates, USA Irène Anne Durand, LaBRI University of Bordeaux, France Jim Newton, Cadence Design Systems, France Kuroda Hisao, Mathematical Systems Inc., Japan Matthew Might, University of Utah, USA Nicolas Neuss, Friedrich Alexander Universitat, Germany Ralf Möller, TUHH, Germany Sam Tobin-Hochstadt, Northeastern University, USA William Byrd, University of Utah, USA Contact: ilc14-organizing-committee at alu.org For more information, see http://ilc2014.iro.umontreal.ca/ -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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[pro] International Lisp Conference deadline extension (May 25)
by Didier Verna 19 May '14

19 May '14

ILC 2014 - International Lisp Conference "Lisp on the Move" August 14-17 2014, Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada Sponsored by the Association of Lisp Users In cooperation with: ACM SIGPLAN http://www.international-lisp-conference.org Latest News: * The submission deadline has been extended to May 25. You have one more week to write a paper! Scope: Lisp is one of the greatest ideas from computer science and a major influence for almost all programming languages and for all sufficiently complex software applications. The International Lisp Conference is a forum for the discussion of Lisp and, in particular, the design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp dialects. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. We invite high quality submissions in all areas involving Lisp dialects and any other languages in the Lisp family, including, but not limited to, ACL2, AutoLisp, Clojure, Common Lisp, ECMAScript, Dylan, Emacs Lisp, ISLISP, Racket, Scheme, SKILL, HOP etc. The conference proceedings will be published in the ACM Digital Library. This year's focus will be directed towards integrated solutions, including mobile computing. We especially invite submissions in the following areas: * Pervasive computing Interoperability Portability Implementation * challenges/tradeoffs for embedded/mobile platforms Language * support for mobile toolkits and frameworks Language support for * distribution Language support for reliability, availability, and * serviceability Mobile IDEs Mobile applications Contributions are also welcome in other areas, including but not limited to: * Language design and implementation Language integration, * inter-operation and deployment Applications (especially * commercial) Reflection, meta-object protocols, meta-programming * Domain-specific languages Programming paradigms and environments * Efficient parallel and concurrent computation Language support for * managing both manual and automatic GC Theorem proving Scientific * computing Data mining Semantic web Technical Programme: Original submissions in all areas related to the conference themes are invited for the following categories: Papers: Technical papers of up to 10 pages that describe original results. Demonstrations: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries and applications. Workshops: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for groups of people who intend to work on a focused topic for half a day. Tutorials: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest for 1 to 2 hours. Panel discussions: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for discussions about current themes. Panel discussion proposals must mention panel member who are willing to partake in a discussion. The conference will also provide slots for lightning talks, to be registered on-site every day. For inquiries about any other kind of participation (commercial exhibits, advertising, prizes, book signing etc.), please see the contacts below. Important Dates: - May 25, 2014: Submission deadline *** EXTENDED *** - June 09, 2014: Notification of acceptance - June 29, 2014: Final Papers due - August 14, 2014: Conference All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM classification categories and terms. For more information on the submission guidelines and the ACM keywords, see: http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates and http://www.acm.org/about/class/1998. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair, at the following address: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ilc14 Organizing Committee: General Chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Chair: Didier Verna (EPITA Research lab, Paris, France) Local chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Committee: Charlotte Herzeel, IMEC, ExaScience Life Lab, Belgium Damir Cavar, Eastern Michigan University, USA Dave Herman, Mozilla Research, USA Greg Pfeil, Clozure Associates, USA Irène Anne Durand, LaBRI University of Bordeaux, France Jim Newton, Cadence Design Systems, France Kuroda Hisao, Mathematical Systems Inc., Japan Matthew Might, University of Utah, USA Nicolas Neuss, Friedrich Alexander Universitat, Germany Ralf Möller, TUHH, Germany Sam Tobin-Hochstadt, Northeastern University, USA William Byrd, University of Utah, USA Contacts: * General Questions: ilc14-organizing-committee at alu.org * Programme Committee: ilc14 at easychair.org For more information, see http://www.international-lisp-conference.org -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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Re: [pro] lisp on mobile platforms these days
by Bruce O'Neel 09 May '14

09 May '14

Hello, When you say "targeting mobile devices" do you mean 1. You get a lisp REPL on your Android/iPhone? 2. You can write Apps in Lisp such that the end user does not know whether lisp is there or not. I could be interested in either, though to be honest I am slightly more interested in the first. Thanks. bruce >>>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:18:17 +0600, Attila Lendvai said: > > dear lispers, > > what is the state of the art in running lisp (not just CL) on mobile > platforms, preferably in a portable way? > > is mkcl viable to run as a native app both on iOS and android? > > if iOS has too many legal constraints and whatnot, then let's forget > it for now. We are working on targeting mobile devices and are currently seeking alpha testers. Please contact us directly if you would like to build a Common Lisp runtime for iOS or Android. We're not going to publish further details yet, so please don't ask here. -- Martin Simmons LispWorks Ltd http://www.lispworks.com/ _______________________________________________ pro mailing list pro(a)common-lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pro

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[pro] CDRs on arXiv
by Antoniotti Marco 08 May '14

08 May '14

Dear all, I thought that a good idea to generate some interest in the community would be to publish all the finalized CDRs on arXiv. To this end it would be useful if all the past CDR contributors would take the time to prepare an ‘arXiv’ acceptable submission and let the editors know that they have done so. All the best -- Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01 DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://bimib.disco.unimib.it Viale Sarca 336 I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY Please note that I am not checking my Spam-box anymore. Please do not forward this email without asking me first.

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[pro] [CfP] International Lisp Conference 2014, Aug. 14-17, Montreal
by Didier Verna 07 May '14

07 May '14

ILC 2014 - International Lisp Conference "Lisp on the Move" August 14-17 2014, Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada Sponsored by the Association of Lisp Users In cooperation with: ACM SIGPLAN http://www.international-lisp-conference.org Scope: Lisp is one of the greatest ideas from computer science and a major influence for almost all programming languages and for all sufficiently complex software applications. The International Lisp Conference is a forum for the discussion of Lisp and, in particular, the design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp dialects. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. We invite high quality submissions in all areas involving Lisp dialects and any other languages in the Lisp family, including, but not limited to, ACL2, AutoLisp, Clojure, Common Lisp, ECMAScript, Dylan, Emacs Lisp, ISLISP, Racket, Scheme, SKILL, HOP etc. The conference proceedings will be published in the ACM Digital Library. This year's focus will be directed towards integrated solutions, including mobile computing. We especially invite submissions in the following areas: * Pervasive computing Interoperability Portability Implementation * challenges/tradeoffs for embedded/mobile platforms Language * support for mobile toolkits and frameworks Language support for * distribution Language support for reliability, availability, and * serviceability Mobile IDEs Mobile applications Contributions are also welcome in other areas, including but not limited to: * Language design and implementation Language integration, * inter-operation and deployment Applications (especially * commercial) Reflection, meta-object protocols, meta-programming * Domain-specific languages Programming paradigms and environments * Efficient parallel and concurrent computation Language support for * managing both manual and automatic GC Theorem proving Scientific * computing Data mining Semantic web Technical Programme: Original submissions in all areas related to the conference themes are invited for the following categories: Papers: Technical papers of up to 10 pages that describe original results. Demonstrations: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries and applications. Workshops: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for groups of people who intend to work on a focused topic for half a day. Tutorials: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest for 1 to 2 hours. Panel discussions: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for discussions about current themes. Panel discussion proposals must mention panel member who are willing to partake in a discussion. The conference will also provide slots for lightning talks, to be registered on-site every day. For inquiries about any other kind of participation (commercial exhibits, advertising, prizes, book signing etc.), please see the contacts below. Important Dates: - May 18, 2014: Submission deadline - June 09, 2014: Notification of acceptance - June 29, 2014: Final Papers due - August 14, 2014: Conference All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM classification categories and terms. For more information on the submission guidelines and the ACM keywords, see: http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates and http://www.acm.org/about/class/1998. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair, at the following address: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ilc14 Organizing Committee: General Chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Chair: Didier Verna (EPITA Research lab, Paris, France) Local chair: Marc Feeley (Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada) Programme Committee: Charlotte Herzeel, IMEC, ExaScience Life Lab, Belgium Damir Cavar, Eastern Michigan University, USA Dave Herman, Mozilla Research, USA Greg Pfeil, Clozure Associates, USA Irène Anne Durand, LaBRI University of Bordeaux, France Jim Newton, Cadence Design Systems, France Kuroda Hisao, Mathematical Systems Inc., Japan Matthew Might, University of Utah, USA Nicolas Neuss, Friedrich Alexander Universitat, Germany Ralf Möller, TUHH, Germany Sam Tobin-Hochstadt, Northeastern University, USA William Byrd, University of Utah, USA Contacts: * General Questions: ilc14-organizing-committee at alu.org * Programme Committee: ilc14 at easychair.org For more information, see http://www.international-lisp-conference.org -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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[pro] lisp on mobile platforms these days
by Attila Lendvai 01 May '14

01 May '14

dear lispers, what is the state of the art in running lisp (not just CL) on mobile platforms, preferably in a portable way? is mkcl viable to run as a native app both on iOS and android? if iOS has too many legal constraints and whatnot, then let's forget it for now. what are the downsides of connecting to the NDK (android C API)? how much of android is not available through the NDK? -- • attila lendvai • PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- Paralysis through analysis.

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