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[chicago-lisp] Plans for Upcoming Meetings
by Paul F. Dietz 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Brian Mastenbrook and I each presented a paper at the 2005 International Lisp Conference, and we both thought it would be worthwhile to do a repeat performance for the Chicago LUG. Brian's paper (with coauthors) is about Climacs, a syntax-aware editor writing in Common Lisp. It does controlled reparsing of text upon editing. He has nifty graphical demos. My paper is on the ANSI Common Lisp conformance test suite that's distributed with GNU Common Lisp. It's had a large impact on many CL implementations, and I think the lessons learned in testing apply to other languages as well. I'll let everyone know when we've scheduled these. Send suggestions for times/places to me or to this list. Paul Dietz dietz(a)dls.net

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[chicago-lisp] Hello!
by r2q2 10 May '05

10 May '05

Hi, I am a beginning lisper reading through the little schemer. I also am part of the community scheme wiki (found at http://commmunity.schemewiki.org/) and I hang out on freenode @ #scheme. Possibly I want to go into learning AI using opencyc.

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[chicago-lisp] Working through Practical Common Lisp
by PJ Hyett 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Hi Lispers, I'm a total Lisp newbie working my way through the new Practical Common Lisp book and I've encountered an odd problem. Using these functions: (defun prompt-read (prompt) (format *query-io* "~a: " prompt) (force-output *query-io*) (read-line *query-io*)) (defun prompt-twice() (prompt read (prompt-read "hello")) Running this on the REPL: (prompt-twice) Gives me the following output: hello: hi hi: "" NIL The program exits before I have a change to enter anything on the hi: line. Any Lisp guys out there wanna set me straight? I'm using Lisp in a Box on Suse 9.2 Pro. Thanks, PJ

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[chicago-lisp] Greetings from Seattle
by Brandon J. Van Every 11 Apr '05

11 Apr '05

Hi, I'm in Seattle. I co-run a group called SeaFunc, for Seattle functional programmers. We are a merger of local Lisp and ML groups. We figured we had better survival odds together than separate. We have a mailing list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/ I find it useful to stay coordinated with other user groups as they tend to have similar problems of organization, member retention, and growth. So hello! Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA "The pioneer is the one with the arrows in his back." - anonymous entrepreneur -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005

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RE: [chicago-lisp] Upcoming MAICS
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

So, I think I keep forgetting that MAICS is in Ohio... I had been chatting with Brian a while back about the possibility of the second Chicago Lisp meeting. I keep coming back to the thought that I personally would be interested in hearing more about the kind of stuff that Brian and Eric Berkowitz <http://cs.roosevelt.edu/eric/> having been doing, especially since Roosevelt is in our backyard. Would anyone else be interested in this, too? -- Damien Kick

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[chicago-lisp] Hello!
by David Douthitt 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

Finding out about this list (and this group) turned out to be a challenge :-( The Association of Lisp User's (ALU) web site doesn't list any information about the "Lispers of Chicago." However, there _is_ a Greater Chicago Autocad User's Group (incorporating AutoLisp) at http://www.gcaug.com/ and a North Suburban Chicago Scheme Meetup Group at http://lisp.meetup.com/41/about/ . I've been trying to learn LISP for quite some time (started learning during the latter days of MACLISP ;-) but never quite got over the "hump" that comes in most learning curves. I think I'm just about there - and finding more than ever what joy LISP can be. My biggest complaint with LISP and LISP learning materials in particular was this: the materials show examples of how to write programs to compute Fibonnacci numbers, or primes, or how to write a LISP interpreter. However, they don't show you how to write a program to (for example) sort a file and write it back to disk - or to act as a terminal program - or how to interact with a SQL database - or how to read from the passwrod file. In short, anything that interacts with the outside world is ignored by such luminaries as Winston and Horn's LISP book. I have both the first edition (using MACLISP) and the third edition (using Common LISP). I look forward to becoming more proficient in LISP and to the next meeting of the LISP Chicago group. Since any part of Chicago is some distance for me, it matters not where - as long as I don't have to be afraid to be there after dark ;-) -- David Douthitt UNIX System Administrator Linux+, LPIC-1, RHCE HP-UX, Unixware, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD Member: ACM, USENIX/SAGE

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[chicago-lisp] Upcoming MAICS
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Has anyone been thinking about attending the 2005 MAICS <http://www.maics.us/call_for_papers.htm <http://www.maics.us/call_for_papers.htm> >? I would imagine that Brian would already have plans to attend <smile>. Brian, I didn't see any information about registration <http://www.maics.us/registration.htm <http://www.maics.us/registration.htm> > available. The page was blank. Do you know anything about the MAICS this year? -- Damien Kick

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[chicago-lisp] FA: MacIvory Model 3 w/ Genera 8.3
by Richard E. Robbins 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

I've decided to place my MacIvory Model 3 up for auction on eBay. The system, which includes the Symbolics keyboard, three button mouse and Genera 8.3 distribution CD is housed in a Macintosh Quadra 950. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5163264504

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[chicago-lisp] Join Calculus, Polyphonic C and Lisp
by Matthew D Swank 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

Not that this is Lisp, but at our recent gathering I was babbling ineffectually about using the Join Calculus in Lisp. Join Calculus uses concurrency abstractions that can be (easily) embedded in a functional programming language. This is why I thought it would make a good fit for Lisp. There are a number of papers; most centered around an ML-like implementation language, but the most accessible (to me at least) is "Modern Concurrency Abstractions for C". This paper describes a subset of the Join Calculus that extends C#, and includes many standard examples of synchronization and communication. http://research.microsoft.com/~nick/polyphony/PolyphonyECOOP.A4.pdf

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RE: [chicago-lisp] Report from the first meeting
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

I wish I could've been there. When we first started talking about the date, I really thought I'd be fully recuperated by now <sigh>. Anyway, I look forward to the next gathering. -- Damien Kick -----Original Message----- From: chicago-lisp-bounces(a)common-lisp.net [mailto:chicago-lisp-bounces@common-lisp.net] On Behalf Of Brian Mastenbrook Sent: Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 21:17 To: chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net Subject: [chicago-lisp] Report from the first meeting We had seven people at the Olive Garden tonight. It was a roaring success and I'm looking forward to future meetings. Everybody here has something interesting to share, so a presentation-style meeting is probably next. I'm looking at possible hosting for such an event and will let you all know when I have a candidate. http://www.iscblog.info/blog/display/53 will probably appear on Planet Lisp within an hour or so; it's got a fuzzy picture from the event taken on my PDA. Thanks to all who showed up! -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb(a)cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/ _______________________________________________ chicago-lisp site list chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp

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[chicago-lisp] Report from the first meeting
by Brian Mastenbrook 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

We had seven people at the Olive Garden tonight. It was a roaring success and I'm looking forward to future meetings. Everybody here has something interesting to share, so a presentation-style meeting is probably next. I'm looking at possible hosting for such an event and will let you all know when I have a candidate. http://www.iscblog.info/blog/display/53 will probably appear on Planet Lisp within an hour or so; it's got a fuzzy picture from the event taken on my PDA. Thanks to all who showed up! -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb(a)cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/

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RE: [chicago-lisp] ANN: First Chicago Lisp meeting
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

<sigh> And I'm not going to be able to make it <frown>. I had hernia surgery on the 24th and I had been expecting to be fully mobile by today but it turns out that this was overly optimistic. I'm still working from home. However, I'm glad that the ball seems to have started rolling and I'll keep my eyes peeled for the next gathering. -- Damien Kick -----Original Message----- From: chicago-lisp-bounces(a)common-lisp.net [mailto:chicago-lisp-bounces@common-lisp.net] On Behalf Of Brian Mastenbrook Sent: Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 06:40 To: Andrew K. Wolven Cc: chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net Subject: Re: [chicago-lisp] ANN: First Chicago Lisp meeting On Jan 31, 2005, at 9:20 PM, Andrew K. Wolven wrote: > See you all tomorrow. I will look for Brian. > > -AKW The reservation is made under the name Brian, so when you go in, ask the hostess about that. See you all there! -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb(a)cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/ _______________________________________________ chicago-lisp site list chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp

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Fw: [chicago-lisp] ANN: First Chicago Lisp meeting
by Andrew K. Wolven 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

See you all tomorrow. I will look for Brian. -AKW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mastenbrook" <bmastenbrook(a)comcast.net> To: <chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: [chicago-lisp] ANN: First Chicago Lisp meeting > The first Chicago Lisp users group meeting / social will take place on > Tuesday, February 1st at 6:00 p.m., at the Olive Garden in Schaumburg, > IL. Here is a map of the location: > > http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp? > country=US&address=1925+East+Golf+Road+&city=Schaumburg&state=IL&zipcode > =60173-- > > It is on the north side of Woodfield Mall, on the perimeter drive that > surrounds the mall. It is accessible most easily from Golf road. > > Please send me email at chandler(a)unmutual.info to RSVP. I will make the > reservation one day in advance, so email me before Monday, January > 31st. > > This meeting will be a social event and dinner, at which time we can > discuss ideas for future meetings, presentations, hack sessions, etc. > -- > Brian Mastenbrook > bmastenb(a)cs.indiana.edu > http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/ > > _______________________________________________ > chicago-lisp site list > chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp

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[chicago-lisp] ANN: First Chicago Lisp meeting
by Brian Mastenbrook 27 Jan '05

27 Jan '05

The first Chicago Lisp users group meeting / social will take place on Tuesday, February 1st at 6:00 p.m., at the Olive Garden in Schaumburg, IL. Here is a map of the location: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp? country=US&address=1925+East+Golf+Road+&city=Schaumburg&state=IL&zipcode =60173-- It is on the north side of Woodfield Mall, on the perimeter drive that surrounds the mall. It is accessible most easily from Golf road. Please send me email at chandler(a)unmutual.info to RSVP. I will make the reservation one day in advance, so email me before Monday, January 31st. This meeting will be a social event and dinner, at which time we can discuss ideas for future meetings, presentations, hack sessions, etc. -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb(a)cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/

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[chicago-lisp] Chicago Lisp meeting
by Brian Mastenbrook 25 Jan '05

25 Jan '05

OK, now that we've got a time pinned down - Tuesday, Feb 1st at 6:00 - what about location? Does the Olive Garden in Schaumburg work for everyone? It's on the perimeter drive that surrounds Woodfield Mall, on the north side by Golf Road. Here is the map of the location: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp? country=US&address=1925+East+Golf+Road+&city=Schaumburg&state=IL&zipcode =60173 -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb(a)cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/

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RE: [chicago-lisp] All quiet on the Midwestern front?
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

Brian Mastenbrook [bmastenbrook(a)comcast.net] wrote: > How does Tuesday, February 1st sound? How about Tuesday, February 1st, at 6:00 PM. I need to head back into the city by 8:00 PM, so starting a bit earlier works for me. -- Damien Kick

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RE: [chicago-lisp] All quiet on the Midwestern front?
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Brian Mastenbrook [bmastenbrook(a)comcast.net] wrote: > I'm a coworker of Paul's too. :-) Very much so, it would seem <smile>... > There's no shortage of good restaurants between the main campus and > Arlington Heights. Since we clearly need a first suggestion, I'm > going to start by suggesting Olive Garden. The only one I know of is > by Woodfield mall, but I'm sure there are others. Your solution has the advantage of being first to market. > Flames? Responses? Sounds good to me. -- Damien Kick

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[chicago-lisp] Re: Chicago Computing Events
by Ed Summers 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

> I posted a link to the Chicago Lisp cliki site to > http://chicomp.multiply.org, a calendar/wiki for Chicago based computing > events and organizations. If Ed Summers et al sees we've scheduled a > meeting on the mailing-list, it should show up on the events calendar > (or one of us could even put it there :). I just noticed the link to cliki, and have signed up on list (obviously) so I'll take care of posting meeting annoucements there. Sorry for the delay; and I should say it's great to see a Chicago area Lisp group start up! //Ed -- Ed Summers aim: inkdroid web: http://www.inkdroid.org O would some Power the gift to give us To see ourselves as others see us! It would from many a blunder free us, And foolish notion [Robert Burns]

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RE: [chicago-lisp] All quiet on the Midwestern front?
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Michael Lee [lee(a)iit.edu] wrote: > Hi --- I'm a recent sign-up from the city. Could anyone briefly > describe what would be on the agenda of such a meeting, if it were > to take place? Wow, an agenda? I dunno know about all that <smile>. How about we start with some introductions, why we've subscribed to the list, etc.? I suppose that I should eventually get around to writing up my Road To Lisp <http://www.cliki.net/The%20Road%20to%20Lisp%20Survey>, eventually. Basically, I'm hoping that Chicago Lisp will be a chance to not be the only person I know, aside from comp.lang.lisp, interested in Lisp. I've been working for Motorola for the past eight years, developing software related to the core mobile telephony network primarily in C/C++ during that time, though I've been working on/with a test execution system written in Tcl for the past year and a half, more or less. Before that, I was an undergraduate student at Marquette University, where I was first exposed to Lisp in an "Intro to AI" class. It was the typical intro to Lisp. The list was the only data structure mentioned. It was, oddly enough, a Lisp implementation running on VAX/VMS. Probably only had an interpreter. I really liked Lisp when I first encountered it, for some reason, I actually liked all the parenthesis, but never had much of a chance to do anything with it after that one class. I was reminded of Lisp, interestingly enough, by reading things about multiple dispatch in C++ from Scott Meyers, Andrei Alexandrescu, and Bjarne Stroustrup, usually mentioning that CLOS already had builtin support for it. I also ran across some stuff on /. <http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=lisp> <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slashdot+lisp>: Lisp as an Alternative to Java, Kent Pitman's interview, etc. And since then, I've read Paul Graham's _ANSI Common Lisp_, CLTL2, _Object Oriented Programming in Common Lisp_, and I'm still working through PAIP and AMOP. All of this reading is all well and good but <pause> well, it's just reading. I wish I had an excuse to use Lisp in anger. I've been sneaking it into silly little utilities; I don't always reach for Perl anymore. I have aikido lessons in the evenings and I don't sit in my apartment enough on the weekends to have a lot of time to code for fun. I'm looking for other avenues. What are other people working on? Is anyone using any of this stuff in anger? I'm actually quite interested to hear a bit more from Paul Dietz, as he is also a Motorola employee. What about jobs in the Chicago area that might involve Lisp? Personally, I don't have any idea what an agenda for the first Chicago Lisp meeting should look like but these are some of the general topics of interest to me. Actually, I live in Chicago (Wicker Park) but I work in Arlington Heights; I don't really often make it out to the suburbs on the weekends. What about everybody else? -- Damien Kick

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RE: [chicago-lisp] All quiet on the Midwestern front?
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Paul and Brian, as you're currently the only two to have responded but the more the merrier, if I'm remembering correctly from the archives, you both find yourself in the NW suburbs? Would either of you be interested in getting together sometime in the first half of February? -- Damien Kick -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mastenbrook [mailto:bmastenbrook@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2005 19:12 To: Kick Damien-DKICK1 Cc: chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net Subject: Re: [chicago-lisp] All quiet on the Midwestern front? On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:04 PM, Kick Damien-DKICK1 wrote: > From the archives of this list, it would seem that things have been > pretty quiet. There was some discussion about whether or not people > should meet but nothing about whether or not anyone actually met. > Have there been any gatherings? Nope. I'm still interested but am not very good at planning anything. I think Paul Dietz had some ideas about a first meet / dinner. Perhaps he should come up with a suggestion? Even something where not everybody can attend would be a decent way of getting something started (as opposed to nothing!) -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb(a)cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/

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[chicago-lisp] All quiet on the Midwestern front?
by Kick Damien-DKICK1 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

>From the archives of this list, it would seem that things have been pretty quiet. There was some discussion about whether or not people should meet but nothing about whether or not anyone actually met. Have there been any gatherings? -- Damien Kick

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[chicago-lisp] Chicago Computing Events
by Matthew D. Swank 09 Jan '05

09 Jan '05

I posted a link to the Chicago Lisp cliki site to http://chicomp.multiply.org, a calendar/wiki for Chicago based computing events and organizations. If Ed Summers et al sees we've scheduled a meeting on the mailing-list, it should show up on the events calendar (or one of us could even put it there :). Matt

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[chicago-lisp] meeting
by Matthew Swank 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

I notice traffic has come to a stand-still. Is everyone busy, or simply unmotivated? Matt

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[chicago-lisp] Chicago Lisp user group
by Brian Mastenbrook 27 Oct '04

27 Oct '04

Hello all, Now that you've probably all forgotten about this list, it's probably a good time to start setting up a meeting. The things we should probably discuss are time/date, venue, and content / structure. My suggestions are: Time/Date: either a weeknight or weekend afternoon; any day of the week is generally OK, but some specific dates might not work (The next couple of weekends will be bad for me). Location: Somewhere out towards the northwest suburbs. There is a good chance that I can get Roosevelt University in Schaumburg to provide a room for the meeting. Content / structure: several other Lisp user groups organize their meetings as presentations by a few people about a topic of interest. I can do presentations on any number of topics (web serving with araneida is a general topic that I could do any number of sub-presentations in). I'm sure that other people can do interesting presentations too (*cough* Paul :-) My general thought is that we should set a general bound on topics as topics relating to Lisp (Common Lisp, Scheme, ISLISP, other recognizable lisps) and try to avoid presentations mostly relating to other languages. However, I don't think that we should limit ourselves to any one dialect of lisp - if we get *really* popular, there's always the possibility of SIGs :-) Thoughts? -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenbrook(a)comcast.net http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/

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[chicago-lisp] Test
by Paul F. Dietz 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

This is a test message.

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