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Call for Interest: Clojure (or Lisp?) Code Camp with BLM focus
by Ken Tilton 01 Dec '20

01 Dec '20

So I got to thinking about creating an approachable pathway to IT careers for anyone really, but in the spirit of today one focused on creating career opportunities for African Americans. The idea would be a code camp developed around algorithmic generation of music. I know nothing about music theory, except that there is prolly enough there to introduce most if not all fundamental programming concepts. For those campers that accidentally get hooked on programming itself, which is how many of us ended up in IT careers, away they go! The idea is to: - use music as the hook; - defer as long as possible the annoying things about programming (I am looking at you, node.js); - part of that ^^^ will be using a powerful language with the parentheses in the right place, prolly ClojureScript since that could run where JS runs; - keep programming as the focus, as tempting as the music will be. Sonic Pi comes with all sorts of built-in sound capabilities, but we want to *develop* those in the code camp; - tailor the program to specific musical genres, to maximize the musical hook. I am dropping this here since I know many Common Lispers have a strong musical bent. My questions are: - Could we use CL instead? I do think this almost has to be a web app, perhaps even mobile. Hmmm, we *could* CL-ify CLJS with sufficent clever macrology. - What do you think? Can a solid programming fundamentals course be expressed in music theory? Hint: HTTP is not a programming fundamental. - If there is any interest, what would be a good place for an ongoing discussion? Google groups? Ideas, comments, suggestions all welcome. -hk

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Maru - a tiny self-hosting lisp dialect
by Attila Lendvai 05 Oct '20

05 Oct '20

dear list, some of you may already know about Maru, Ian Piumarta's tiny lisp that can self-host in about 2000 LoC through x86 asm. it was developed as part of Alan Kay's VPRI-FoNC project, and then was abandoned in a state that is more of a proof of concept than anything meant to be production ready. https://github.com/attila-lendvai/maru i started hacking on it mostly for fun, and made some substantial improvements, mostly driven by turning it into something that is easier to read and understand, and also to make it more aesthetically pleasing to me. the reason i'm writing this mail is to get some feedback on whether the discussion about some lisp related linguistic features and implementation strategies are welcome here on this list... so, are they? and if it's not, then what would be a good forum for in-depth discussion of lisp related implementation strategies. -- • attila lendvai • PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 --

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A day of this
by Burton Samograd 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Goodbye. — burton

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Re: Call for Interest: Clojure (or Lisp?) Code Camp with BLM focus
by Stonewall Ballard 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

Ken, Are you familiar with Opusmodus? <http://opusmodus.com> It’s written in Clozure ccl, and besides providing an incredible array of music manipulation functions and structures, it’s got a beautiful window system. Mac only. Your idea of using music as a hook to learn Lisp sounds plausible. Good Luck! - Stoney ———— Stonewall Ballard stoney(a)sb.org http://stoney.sb.org On Monday, July 6 at 8:15:31 AM, Ken Tilton (kentilton(a)gmail.com) wrote: So I got to thinking about creating an approachable pathway to IT careers for anyone really, but in the spirit of today one focused on creating career opportunities for African Americans. The idea would be a code camp developed around algorithmic generation of music. I know nothing about music theory, except that there is prolly enough there to introduce most if not all fundamental programming concepts. For those campers that accidentally get hooked on programming itself, which is how many of us ended up in IT careers, away they go! The idea is to: use music as the hook; defer as long as possible the annoying things about programming (I am looking at you, node.js); part of that ^^^ will be using a powerful language with the parentheses in the right place, prolly ClojureScript since that could run where JS runs; keep programming as the focus, as tempting as the music will be. Sonic Pi comes with all sorts of built-in sound capabilities, but we want to develop those in the code camp; tailor the program to specific musical genres, to maximize the musical hook. I am dropping this here since I know many Common Lispers have a strong musical bent. My questions are: Could we use CL instead? I do think this almost has to be a web app, perhaps even mobile. Hmmm, we could CL-ify CLJS with sufficent clever macrology. What do you think? Can a solid programming fundamentals course be expressed in music theory? Hint: HTTP is not a programming fundamental. If there is any interest, what would be a good place for an ongoing discussion? Google groups? Ideas, comments, suggestions all welcome. -hk

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Hi
by Manfred Bergmann 26 May '20

26 May '20

Hello. (Not sure where this message finally is appended to as reply. I’ve copied the subject and body from the archive.) I’m also new to the list here. Interesting to find Peter Seibel here as well, just read his book PCL last year. I’m actually also quite new to Common List. Yes, I guess there are still people coming. After dealing more than 20 years with mostly Java/Scala, or the JVM in general, .NET, Objective-C and many other things I must say that Common Lisp is so refreshing. I’m not sure how else I can express it. It’s so great. Not having had any dealings with Lisp before (I’m not sure why) it’s hard to really grasp it. But now, after > 1 year I think I have a bit of understanding. I’ve tried Clojure. But since I’m coming from the JVM I was looking form something that does not run on the JVM (I’m a bit tired of it). Now I’ve collected a fair amount of CL books and so absorbing all the great information that is in this environment. Cheers, Manfred > Hey Burton, This list is not very active, but some of us still use Common Lisp as their main language :) Best regards, Daniel On May 8, 2020 8:53:11 AM GMT+02:00, Geoffrey Teale <tealeg at gmail.com> wrote: >Hello Burton, > > > >I'm afraid there's not a lot of action on this list, but welcome all > >the > >same. > > > >For my part, Common Lisp isn't really part of my daily life anymore - I > >use > >Racket a fair bit, and Elisp. >

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Dependencies between CL projects in GitHub
by Alexandre Rademaker 26 May '20

26 May '20

Hi all, It would be nice to have the `used by` button on all CL projects like we see in the ABCL: https://github.com/armedbear/abcl Unfortunately, it looks like GitHub team does not know about the `.asd` files. https://help.github.com/en/github/visualizing-repository-data-with-graphs/l… Best, Alexandre

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Language Independent Arithmetic in Common Lisp
by Marco Antoniotti 17 May '20

17 May '20

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RE: Re: Hi
by Marco Antoniotti 15 May '20

15 May '20

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Hi
by Burton Samograd 13 May '20

13 May '20

Just wanted to say hello. Burton Samograd A Fellow Lisper

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RE: Re: Hi
by Marco Antoniotti 11 May '20

11 May '20

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